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BlueMoon 11-10-2014 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 1761297)
This industry is liking buying stocks, when everyone else is selling you buy, when everyone else is buying you sell. What was the best regional of the 2000's? Comair?

The question of when the quick upgrades will stop is the very reason I'd be very hesitant to make a lateral move. The very fact that people on here are already getting cold feet shows that the easy hiring for Compass will end next year and then what? What can Compass do to entice new hires beyond offering hotel rooms for training? Of course every Compass pilot is on here telling people the party will never end, their upward movement depends on it. The party will end eventually and then Compass will be just another regional with an average contract hard up for any pilot they can get. I'd do the math myself to get my own answers instead of taking advice from people who stand to benefit from giving out incorrect information.

It depends on where you are moving from. If your company isn't upgrading, is parking planes, or downgrading, you are better served leaving and going to a growing company.

Just because everyone is buying doesn't mean you should hold on to your stock that is going down.

lowtimepilot 11-10-2014 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1761302)
What math are you going to do? Do you know how many people who don't have 1000 121 and will be bypassed? It's quite a few I have heard between 50-80. Do you know how many upgrades are planned? I have seen the training plan and it is 300+ Upgrades starting in Jan.


Wouldn't this mean they would miss the quick upgrade? Not trying to pick a fight, just a question. How many people are on property? 500? ( this is a guess) 500-150 flowing= 350. 300 upgrades planned looks like they would miss it, unless there are 50 people that leave.

Ar Pilot 11-10-2014 12:21 PM

Also have to factor in staffing for 20 more aircraft and normal attrition rates besides flows.

If you're less than 4 years on property at the likes of envoy, XJT, or endeavor. You'll still almost certainly upgrade at Compass before you would those places.

It may not be an 10-12 month upgrade, but <2 years isn't unreasonable, and in the mean time your relative seniority is far greater. Being a super senior FO ain't so bad.

Nantonaku 11-10-2014 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Snickers (Post 1761303)
Isnt that pretty hypocritical? Endeavor pilot telling endeavor pilots not to leave?

I haven't told a single person not to leave. In fact quite the opposite, I tell anyone that asks they should leave. If I lived in LA I would have left for Compass a long time ago. If I lived in a PSA base I would have gone yesterday. I'm telling people to do their own research. Is that hypocritical? How so?

flyguy94 11-10-2014 12:55 PM

What documents do you need to prove a domestic partner? For the Delta Benefits.

typical41 11-10-2014 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy94 (Post 1761330)
What documents do you need to prove a domestic partner? For the Delta Benefits.

Actually, you don't have to have any paperwork.
They just make you go in a 2-way mirrored room, so that you can have a nice argument with your domestic partner, then they make you have makeup sex. By the way, the mirror works to your advantage too, not just their benefit.

After that you are good to go, its pretty much the equivalent of expedited paperwork.

Poopchute701 11-10-2014 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1761302)
What math are you going to do? Do you know how many people who don't have 1000 121 and will be bypassed? It's quite a few I have heard between 50-80. Do you know how many upgrades are planned? I have seen the training plan and it is 300+ Upgrades starting in Jan.

I thought it was about 250 upgrades next year? Now its 300?
SO do you think they would resort to street captains first, or maybe allow guys will 1000 SIC and less then 2500TT upgrade? Just curious if you think the company min of 2500TT is going to stay....

BlueMoon 11-10-2014 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Poopchute701 (Post 1761354)
I thought it was about 250 upgrades next year? Now its 300?
SO do you think they would resort to street captains first, or maybe allow guys will 1000 SIC and less then 2500TT upgrade? Just curious if you think the company min of 2500TT is going to stay....

Hopefully it does.

Poopchute701 11-10-2014 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 1761361)
Hopefully it does.

Im not saying it should go away, just curious how that would work if they did bring in street captains. Say a bunch of people bypass because of flight time, and upgrades stop next fall, and guys that needed the 2500TT or 1000 sic were then elgible after upgrades stop....so basically these guys who bypassed would be stuck as fos until more captain slots open as people leave?


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