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Old 11-10-2014, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
Would you have to meet upgrade requirements as a new hire to do that or would they assume you'll meet the minimums within 13 months?
Once upon a time everyone was trained that way and all were not eligible due to company times. This was before the ATP rule. Not sure this go around.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I'd guess you will have a large amount of remaining wave to ride at CPZ and unless you have significant seniority (not the same thing as longevity) at your current regional, CPZ is likely far better long term.

No idea about your attempt to out guess the future with things outside your control. Other than that, CPZ is one of, if not the, best regionals right now by far. JMO.
This industry is liking buying stocks, when everyone else is selling you buy, when everyone else is buying you sell. What was the best regional of the 2000's? Comair?

The question of when the quick upgrades will stop is the very reason I'd be very hesitant to make a lateral move. The very fact that people on here are already getting cold feet shows that the easy hiring for Compass will end next year and then what? What can Compass do to entice new hires beyond offering hotel rooms for training? Of course every Compass pilot is on here telling people the party will never end, their upward movement depends on it. The party will end eventually and then Compass will be just another regional with an average contract hard up for any pilot they can get. I'd do the math myself to get my own answers instead of taking advice from people who stand to benefit from giving out incorrect information.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
This industry is liking buying stocks, when everyone else is selling you buy, when everyone else is buying you sell. What was the best regional of the 2000's? Comair?

The question of when the quick upgrades will stop is the very reason I'd be very hesitant to make a lateral move. The very fact that people on here are already getting cold feet shows that the easy hiring for Compass will end next year and then what? What can Compass do to entice new hires beyond offering hotel rooms for training? Of course every Compass pilot is on here telling people the party will never end, their upward movement depends on it. The party will end eventually and then Compass will be just another regional with an average contract hard up for any pilot they can get. I'd do the math myself to get my own answers instead of taking advice from people who stand to benefit from giving out incorrect information.
What math are you going to do? Do you know how many people who don't have 1000 121 and will be bypassed? It's quite a few I have heard between 50-80. Do you know how many upgrades are planned? I have seen the training plan and it is 300+ Upgrades starting in Jan.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
This industry is liking buying stocks, when everyone else is selling you buy, when everyone else is buying you sell. What was the best regional of the 2000's? Comair?

The question of when the quick upgrades will stop is the very reason I'd be very hesitant to make a lateral move. The very fact that people on here are already getting cold feet shows that the easy hiring for Compass will end next year and then what? What can Compass do to entice new hires beyond offering hotel rooms for training? Of course every Compass pilot is on here telling people the party will never end, their upward movement depends on it. The party will end eventually and then Compass will be just another regional with an average contract hard up for any pilot they can get. I'd do the math myself to get my own answers instead of taking advice from people who stand to benefit from giving out incorrect information.
Isnt that pretty hypocritical? Endeavor pilot telling endeavor pilots not to leave?
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
This industry is liking buying stocks, when everyone else is selling you buy, when everyone else is buying you sell. What was the best regional of the 2000's? Comair?

The question of when the quick upgrades will stop is the very reason I'd be very hesitant to make a lateral move. The very fact that people on here are already getting cold feet shows that the easy hiring for Compass will end next year and then what? What can Compass do to entice new hires beyond offering hotel rooms for training? Of course every Compass pilot is on here telling people the party will never end, their upward movement depends on it. The party will end eventually and then Compass will be just another regional with an average contract hard up for any pilot they can get. I'd do the math myself to get my own answers instead of taking advice from people who stand to benefit from giving out incorrect information.
It depends on where you are moving from. If your company isn't upgrading, is parking planes, or downgrading, you are better served leaving and going to a growing company.

Just because everyone is buying doesn't mean you should hold on to your stock that is going down.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
What math are you going to do? Do you know how many people who don't have 1000 121 and will be bypassed? It's quite a few I have heard between 50-80. Do you know how many upgrades are planned? I have seen the training plan and it is 300+ Upgrades starting in Jan.

Wouldn't this mean they would miss the quick upgrade? Not trying to pick a fight, just a question. How many people are on property? 500? ( this is a guess) 500-150 flowing= 350. 300 upgrades planned looks like they would miss it, unless there are 50 people that leave.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:21 PM
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Also have to factor in staffing for 20 more aircraft and normal attrition rates besides flows.

If you're less than 4 years on property at the likes of envoy, XJT, or endeavor. You'll still almost certainly upgrade at Compass before you would those places.

It may not be an 10-12 month upgrade, but <2 years isn't unreasonable, and in the mean time your relative seniority is far greater. Being a super senior FO ain't so bad.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Snickers
Isnt that pretty hypocritical? Endeavor pilot telling endeavor pilots not to leave?
I haven't told a single person not to leave. In fact quite the opposite, I tell anyone that asks they should leave. If I lived in LA I would have left for Compass a long time ago. If I lived in a PSA base I would have gone yesterday. I'm telling people to do their own research. Is that hypocritical? How so?
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What documents do you need to prove a domestic partner? For the Delta Benefits.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy94
What documents do you need to prove a domestic partner? For the Delta Benefits.
Actually, you don't have to have any paperwork.
They just make you go in a 2-way mirrored room, so that you can have a nice argument with your domestic partner, then they make you have makeup sex. By the way, the mirror works to your advantage too, not just their benefit.

After that you are good to go, its pretty much the equivalent of expedited paperwork.
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