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10-12-2014, 07:10 PM
#4731
Hire me
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 406
^This guy has it
It's pick your poison here!! Would you rather the company build trips:
A) To the 19 hour bottom line with a 30 hour layover that has no soft pay (4:45 rig)?
OR
B) To a 16 hour bottom line with 4 hour min day?
They are NOT dummies! They will NOT throw away good money in a highly competitive environment - you should be thankful for that actually. From an outside perspective looking in, the 4:45 is a much better program. It may 'socialize' lines a bit and take some days off from the top bidders BUT, it probably gives an overall higher amount of days off to all pilots.
This coupled with higher line values (from what I have read here), is much better than there being 16 hour 4-day trips out there!
It's pick your poison here!! Would you rather the company build trips:
A) To the 19 hour bottom line with a 30 hour layover that has no soft pay (4:45 rig)?
OR
B) To a 16 hour bottom line with 4 hour min day?
They are NOT dummies! They will NOT throw away good money in a highly competitive environment - you should be thankful for that actually. From an outside perspective looking in, the 4:45 is a much better program. It may 'socialize' lines a bit and take some days off from the top bidders BUT, it probably gives an overall higher amount of days off to all pilots.
This coupled with higher line values (from what I have read here), is much better than there being 16 hour 4-day trips out there!
10-13-2014, 07:16 AM
#4733
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Just another RJ guy
Posts: 906
I'd rather have option B. Because there will only be a handful at most of 16 hour 4 day trips. Company will be forced to build fairly productive trips in the next 1-2 years. We are going to be so short on pilots, they need us to fly. I at least like to feel like I am getting paid for the time on the 30 hr layover, and if I actually do get stuck with a 16 hour 4 day trip, I know I will be getting a lot of drinking time in on the overnights anyway.
You look at the august bid packet (1st month we switched over)....we only gained about 30 hours of credit, yet their was a loss of over 300 hours of pay. Those are hard numbers to ignore. If the union let's me have an opinion of the matter, I will take the 4 hr pay/credit over adtg. Yes the company will change the pairings, but I still want it the other way.
You look at the august bid packet (1st month we switched over)....we only gained about 30 hours of credit, yet their was a loss of over 300 hours of pay. Those are hard numbers to ignore. If the union let's me have an opinion of the matter, I will take the 4 hr pay/credit over adtg. Yes the company will change the pairings, but I still want it the other way.
We can't let the company trample all over us. They are taking advantage of a weak union. The union folded because they thought that the arbitrator would side with the company. The company thought that the arbitrator would side with the union so someone came up with this dumb Average Daily credit idea and everyone agreed because they were being played by the arbitrator. Give us what we agreed to in our contract. 4 hours min day pay...PERIOD. The end. It's very simple.
10-13-2014, 07:49 AM
#4735
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: A319
Posts: 62
Anyone know what the LAX crew hotel is?
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-Hawk
10-13-2014, 10:54 PM
#4738
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Captain CL-65
Posts: 268
Quick question.. What does the most junior CA DOH refer to?? It says the most junior CA hired is 2012 but the most junior DOH is 2010..?
Thanks!
Thanks!
10-14-2014, 02:00 AM
#4740
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Captain CL-65
Posts: 268
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboyxc91
Quick question.. What does the most junior CA DOH refer to?? It says the most junior CA hired is 2012 but the most junior DOH is 2010..?
Thanks!
Typo. It's old info anyway. Most junior captain DOH is 6/2012 per the latest seniority list
Originally Posted by Flyboyxc91
Quick question.. What does the most junior CA DOH refer to?? It says the most junior CA hired is 2012 but the most junior DOH is 2010..?
Thanks!
Typo. It's old info anyway. Most junior captain DOH is 6/2012 per the latest seniority list
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