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#4602
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There is a credit for up to 500 hours of military, multi-engine, multi-pilot, turbine. Single-seat fighter guys are SOL.
§121.436 Pilot Qualification: Certificates and experience requirements.
(a) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as pilot in command of an aircraft (or as second in command of an aircraft in a flag or supplemental operation that requires three or more pilots) unless the pilot:
(1) Holds an airline transport pilot certificate not subject to the limitations in §61.167 of this chapter;
(2) Holds an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown; and
(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.
§ 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications.
(a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations—
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.
#4603
Check out craigslist, my sim partner and I got a heck of a deal on an apartment (need a car). We found a guy that had a finished basement with two rooms, a bathroom and a living room. Well worth driving my car up there. All tolled I think I spent <$1,000 for the whole time I was there (over 2 years ago). You could also check airbnb. You might be able to negotiate a monthly rate with someone.
#4605
All depends if your pitcher is half full or half empty I guess.
#4608
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Position: FO
Posts: 627
That's the way I'd read it, but I could be mistaken.
There is a credit for up to 500 hours of military, multi-engine, multi-pilot, turbine. Single-seat fighter guys are SOL.
§121.436 Pilot Qualification: Certificates and experience requirements.
(a) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as pilot in command of an aircraft (or as second in command of an aircraft in a flag or supplemental operation that requires three or more pilots) unless the pilot:
(1) Holds an airline transport pilot certificate not subject to the limitations in §61.167 of this chapter;
(2) Holds an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown; and
(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.
§ 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications.
(a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations—
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.
There is a credit for up to 500 hours of military, multi-engine, multi-pilot, turbine. Single-seat fighter guys are SOL.
§121.436 Pilot Qualification: Certificates and experience requirements.
(a) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as pilot in command of an aircraft (or as second in command of an aircraft in a flag or supplemental operation that requires three or more pilots) unless the pilot:
(1) Holds an airline transport pilot certificate not subject to the limitations in §61.167 of this chapter;
(2) Holds an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown; and
(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.
§ 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications.
(a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations—
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.
#4609
I might have to get an FAA LOI on this. The way I read the reg...it doesn't matter if its a turbojet, but that it has to have either 10 seats or more OR be involved in a commuter operation.
#4610
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 593
You should be good if the 135 PIC time was in a 10+ seat jet or for a commuter operation.
I may be wrong, it's been known to happen. :-)
By the way I read the regs, the 3,500+ hours of 135 PIC I have is useless for upgrade because it was for a freight operation, which isn't included in 135.243(a)(1).
Not a huge issue for me personally since I'd prefer to wait until I can hold MSP CA and by then I'll have more than the required 1,000 hrs 121 SIC anyway.
Having flown the thing a scant six months, I gotta say that 1,000+ hours learning the Jungle Bus from the right seat before jumping into the left isn't the worst thing in the world.
Will
I may be wrong, it's been known to happen. :-)
By the way I read the regs, the 3,500+ hours of 135 PIC I have is useless for upgrade because it was for a freight operation, which isn't included in 135.243(a)(1).
Not a huge issue for me personally since I'd prefer to wait until I can hold MSP CA and by then I'll have more than the required 1,000 hrs 121 SIC anyway.
Having flown the thing a scant six months, I gotta say that 1,000+ hours learning the Jungle Bus from the right seat before jumping into the left isn't the worst thing in the world.
Will
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