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Old 12-07-2013, 08:02 PM
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Any recent stories of guys getting called without any 121 time. I'm currently a cfi with a beechjet gig. Still have about a year left on my contract though.
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:16 AM
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Does anyone know when does the one year training bond kick in? Is it when you attend orientation or when you finish IOE? And does anyone know if it's enforceable if you live in California- I've read some people say it's not enforceable in certain states?
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bluelion
Does anyone know when does the one year training bond kick in? Is it when you attend orientation or when you finish IOE? And does anyone know if it's enforceable if you live in California- I've read some people say it's not enforceable in certain states?
Orientation and no clue.
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
Orientation and no clue.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bluelion
Does anyone know when does the one year training bond kick in? Is it when you attend orientation or when you finish IOE? And does anyone know if it's enforceable if you live in California- I've read some people say it's not enforceable in certain states?
The training contract or bond begins after you pass your checkride (Last Simulator event).

Also, as for enforceability, I really don't know how they can fully enforce it. I mean how many people have 10,000 to 12,000 bucks lying around that they can pay back to Compass within a month of leaving Compass. That is close to half of your salary for the entire 1st year. They would have to work out some kind of payment plan I suppose.
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by typical41
The training contract or bond begins after you pass your checkride (Last Simulator event).

Also, as for enforceability, I really don't know how they can fully enforce it. I mean how many people have 10,000 to 12,000 bucks lying around that they can pay back to Compass within a month of leaving Compass. That is close to half of your salary for the entire 1st year. They would have to work out some kind of payment plan I suppose.
I have also heard of guys leaving within the first year and not being asked to pay up. I'm not sure exactly how legal these training bonds are anyways. You don't sign a promissory note or anything.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:17 AM
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Don't sign it if you dont intend to honor your commitment then. If you do leave before the contract is up, then you should fully expect to pay. If you don't like the training contract then don't come to compass.

Since when has doing the right thing and honoring your commitment become optional or valid only when in your best interests.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cfiguy11
Don't sign it if you dont intend to honor your commitment then. If you do leave before the contract is up, then you should fully expect to pay. If you don't like the training contract then don't come to compass.

Since when has doing the right thing and honoring your commitment become optional or valid only when in your best interests.
Except that these training contracts are technically indentured servitude. Training contracts have been fought in courts by pilots and they have won. There was a pretty high profile case at ASA awhile back from what I've heard.

Its just a scare tactic for the airline to keep cheap labor from moving on to better opportunities. Do any of the legacy carries make you sign training contracts?
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Old 12-10-2013, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ACessential
Except that these training contracts are technically indentured servitude. Training contracts have been fought in courts by pilots and they have won. There was a pretty high profile case at ASA awhile back from what I've heard.

Its just a scare tactic for the airline to keep cheap labor from moving on to better opportunities. Do any of the legacy carries make you sign training contracts?
Company pays 10k+ for type rating.
"indentured servitude" when I can't just leave a month later.
I hate my *******king generation you are what is wrong with the world.
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Old 12-10-2013, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYZERG
Company pays 10k+ for type rating.
"indentured servitude" when I can't just leave a month later.
I hate my *******king generation you are what is wrong with the world.
Hey I'm just saying it as it is. Pay or not pay, everyone should know their legal rights. Personally, since I had multiple letters of rec when I got on at Compass, I feel like if I left within the first year and didn't re pay that I would be undermining those that helped me get the job. So for me it would be a personal thing and I would feel obligated to pay.
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