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Old 11-20-2009, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
Does anyone know the phone number to HR in Minneapolis? I was called, but the number left on my voice mail is inactive. Apparently this happened to quite a few guys.
How much time do you have? Resume walked in? How long have you been on Furlough? How long after you submitted your app did they call. Any info would be appreciated Im trying to get on but I think every other furloughed pilot in the US is too ha.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:44 PM
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I spent a few months at Compass coming there with experience elsewhere. It's an ok company flying nice airplanes for a good mainline partner.

Good travel benefits and well maintained newer airplanes. Good procedures in the airplane as well.

I couldn't do it any longer due to numerous reasons, one of them being that I would have to file for bankruptcy down the road if I continued. Before you say 'reduce your expenses' I'd say 'easier said than done'. Not willing to walk away from the house payments and most if not all other expenses has been cut to the bone.

Why did I take the job in the first place? Because I lost my previous job due to cutbacks and there were not much available in the US. I was hoping to stay in the US this time but the money is overseas. So it's off again for another overseas job, paying weekly what Compass pays monthly...

Less time at home - yes. But at least I'll be able to provide for the family.

$24 an hour for flying a 76 seater is ridiculous but until people walk and others refuse to take the job it will not change.

Good luck for all you new hires. Study hard and enjoy the airplane.
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:55 PM
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Why is it soooooooo hard to understand that most of the larger RJ's(NW's in particular) are a result of BANKRUPTCY!? Do you honestly believe that BANKRUPTCY did NOT have something to do with this?

These large RJ's, along with MASSIVE paycuts, frozen or dissolved pensions, and less favorable work rules were CRAMMED down the throats of Legacy Pilots because management teams were able to manipulate BK rules to their advantage. This was not about short-sighted LEGACY pilots just giving up scope for more $$$.

Look, I was at XE and I don't forget where I came from. I don't give Compass pilots a hard time, dirty looks, or flip them the birdie when I see them. As a matter of fact, I try to make them feel as comfortable as possible when they jumpseat on us. When I non-rev on them I do my best to strike up some friendly chat. I've had a really easy ride in this industry so far, and while I have cast stones in the past I do my best not to anymore because I haven't been confronted with a lot of the situations that other pilots have.

Bottom line, guys are trying to feed their families and the pickings are next to non existent. Hopefully contracts start to improve again, as it can only be better for all of us.
Matt, Compass guys don't need you to patronize them............whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong, much like XJT not paying US during training, its complete BS and needs to change. The sooner we all realize there is a problem the sooner we can all fix it.
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jetflyger
I spent a few months at Compass coming there with experience elsewhere. It's an ok company flying nice airplanes for a good mainline partner.

Good travel benefits and well maintained newer airplanes. Good procedures in the airplane as well.

I couldn't do it any longer due to numerous reasons, one of them being that I would have to file for bankruptcy down the road if I continued. Before you say 'reduce your expenses' I'd say 'easier said than done'. Not willing to walk away from the house payments and most if not all other expenses has been cut to the bone.

Why did I take the job in the first place? Because I lost my previous job due to cutbacks and there were not much available in the US. I was hoping to stay in the US this time but the money is overseas. So it's off again for another overseas job, paying weekly what Compass pays monthly...

Less time at home - yes. But at least I'll be able to provide for the family.

$24 an hour for flying a 76 seater is ridiculous but until people walk and others refuse to take the job it will not change.

Good luck for all you new hires. Study hard and enjoy the airplane.
People wonder why I don't support all flying just being taken over at "mainline"....Well Compass is essentially what would happen....I'm not starting over at $24 an hour....I'd rather just keep the status quo....
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:19 PM
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Matt, Compass guys don't need you to patronize them............whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong, much like XJT not paying US during training, its complete BS and needs to change. The sooner we all realize there is a problem the sooner we can all fix it.
Patronize??? What???
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
People wonder why I don't support all flying just being taken over at "mainline"....Well Compass is essentially what would happen....I'm not starting over at $24 an hour....I'd rather just keep the status quo....
Well that wouldn't be a problem at DAL Joe because starting pay is $52/hr.
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:27 PM
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Entry Word: patronize
Function: verb
Meaning: 1 to assume or treat with an air of superiority <patronize a child with an overly simple explanation> — see condescend 2
2 to promote the interests or cause of <a company that loyally patronizes the arts> — see support 1
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Entry Word: patronize
Function: verb
Meaning: 1 to assume or treat with an air of superiority <patronize a child with an overly simple explanation> — see condescend 2
2 to promote the interests or cause of <a company that loyally patronizes the arts> — see support 1

OK, now that YOU have verified the meaning of 'patronize' for yourself, why don't you go back and highlight just exactly where I did so.
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Well that wouldn't be a problem at DAL Joe because starting pay is $52/hr.

It won't be if you negotiate to fly the RJs...It wasn't with Compass or MidAtlantic....Compass is essentially the new "starting pay" at Delta.....
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:41 PM
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I hope the new hires have as pleasant a time as I have had here. Not once have i been jr manned and while I was on reserve only once was I called in with less than 12 hours notice. Speaking of reserve, it was cake. I only had one month where i flew over 75 hrs, the other months I was averaging 40-50. Laid back! I think not being in MSP was key to it all.

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