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Old 12-01-2008, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nicholasblonde
Funny thing is you reinforce the stereotype of low-time XJ 900 FOs by having the callsign "tinpusher007" on here, delineating that you're a "-900 FO" (how many others on here have to denote they're on the -900), and also by saying you're "not envious of the DC-9"...you know, cuz it don't have all that glass and you'd get your arse handed to you flying radials and doing level offs in a jet....and no, it's not childish for NWA guys to get all bent out of shape about it when a guy calls it a "9" b/c anyone at NWA has loads more experience than a new hire at a regional, and their bankruptcy/furlough made it possible for you to have those planes to fly...so yeah, they might get a little upset about someone calling it a -9...it's within their rights as industry veterans...

Don't worry, it's not just us poking fun at -900 XJ guys, I've given lots of crap to new hires at 9E bragging about going to the -900 and how much better of an airplane it is...I understand you guys don't have a choice in what you fly, so I won't give you anymore crap bout it...
Oh do I? Let me ask you something smart guy? Have you ever seen the movie "Pushing Tin"? Have you checked my profile to see when I joined this forum and began using the name Tin Pusher? Here's a clue, it was looong before I had any thoughts about coming to XJ. What if I told you that I was hired as an air traffic controller years ago, and thats why I used the name Tin Pusher? Since when does the name TIN specifically mean Im trying to delineate that I drive the almighty 900? You don't know a damn thing about me, so please stop misinterpreting information about me.

And like i said before, if you bothered to read it, except for its payscale, no Im not jealous of DC-9 drivers at all. Yes I do like flying a plane with a glass cockpit instead of round dials, no ability to go direct anywhere and not even getting a groundspeed readout in the airplane. That aside, leveling off the 900 by hand is no less difficult than doing the same thing in a "9" and I would know because I do it almost everytime I fly it.

Furthermore, I like probably 95% of all other airline pilots learned to fly intruments on round dials. So why then are we all of a sudden so inferior as instrument pilots because we have glass now? Did I design the plane with glass so that I could be lazy? No. Bombardier did! Did I even choose to fly the "900"? No. Mesaba HR made that choice for me. Did I vote within NWALPA to give up scope so that the "900" could be flown under NWA colors? No. So with all do respect for NWA pilots and I DO have the utmost respect for them, it IS very childish to literally get angry because some newhires at XJ or 9E calls their shiny new "900" a "9". Okay...point taken...we know its not a DC-9 and there are very few who call it that. But really...WHO CARES!

And finally, yes I bet the 9E pilots that go to the 900 do brag about it because now they can actually climb at more than 500fpm above 20K instead of slowing everyone behind them up and making traffic go around them. And now the cabin is more comfortable than that of the 200. Does that make them so bad? Step off your damn soapbox okay...and get your facts straight before you start spewing nonsense on these boards!

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Old 12-01-2008, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingt7
the pilot should have said "900" so ground wouldn't be confused in thinking the pilot was to pass behind an actual dc9 instead. also, calling it the "9" is just ridiculous.
Air traffic controllers do this because on their strip it says CRJ1/CRJ2 or CRJ9...alot of times they simply call it an RJ9. Im not saying its correct, but it has nothing to do with any sort of envy of the DC-9.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:38 AM
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I like to call it "My captain seat that some subcontractor is flying."
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
I like to call it "My captain seat that some subcontractor is flying."

Sadly, that's quite accurate.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:53 AM
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Isn't this a thread about RAH buying Compass? How would that even work? No way they could ever merge the seniority lists. If they went 1 for 1, RAH pilots would be mad. If they stapled, Compass pilots would be mad. No way either would want to have seperate lists. Just dont see it happening guys.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:09 AM
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Getting back to the original question, anything is possible in the airline business. It looks like DAL is up to something because Compass CEO went over to Comair and the NWA VP for Regional airlines came down to Compass as the new Compass CEO. Both men have the reputation for busting unions and slashing cost.Two likely scenarios: one, DAL will merge Compass and Comair after paring down Comair and then sell off the merged entity to a third party.Two, RAH buys Compass. This does not seem likely although you can never say never in this business. After all Compass is ideally situated for a spin off. Bottom line is if DAL thinks it is to their advantage to sell Compass to RAH, it will regardless of whether it will cause any problems in merging the pilot seniority list.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
And most people work a LOT harder than we do for LESS money.
And they have a beer during their lunch break and they go home every night and they don't need to wear a hat and they don't get searched by TSA every morning and they know they have every Christmas off for the next 30 years and they don't care what the weather is 300 miles away and if the FAA asked them for a ride they'd say "shove off and buy your own darn car"

So what's your point again?
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
And they have a beer during their lunch break and they go home every night and they don't need to wear a hat and they don't get searched by TSA every morning and they know they have every Christmas off for the next 30 years and they don't care what the weather is 300 miles away and if the FAA asked them for a ride they'd say "shove off and buy your own darn car"

So what's your point again?
I GUARANTEE there are many people outside of the airline industry who DONT get Christmas Eve/Christmas off. And if one REALLY has to have a beer with lunch, they may need to start worrying about having a dependency problem. And why do pilots care what the WX is 300 miles away? Chances are, we're going. Work it out inflight. No big deal.

I'm really not trying to single you out, I'm just sick of this tired argument that pilots are the only ones who spend lots of time on the road, and are the only ones who work holidays. It's not just us.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:24 AM
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I strongly back johnso29 (strong poster with positive views, gives solid advice and years of experience) and Justdoinmyjob (NWA pilot, years and years of airline experience) in saying that the DC-9 is the “9.” This is not up for debate and it doesn’t change with the controllers strip, hundreds of thousands of pilots have called the DC-“9” home and I’d rather spend the rest of my LIFE flying the real “9” than the 900. And yes I have well over 1000 hours in the CR9, it’s no “9” and it will never match the legacy of old faithful.

Honor and respect thy elders, a/c and pilots alike, for that is our past and our future. So, stop this foolish debate and out of respect call the CR9 the 900, not the “9.”

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Old 12-01-2008, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
So, stop this foolish debate and out of respect call the CR9 the 900, not the “9.”
Agreed, but for the record, the debate has nothing to do with respect and everything to do with ego. I wonder if the "900" was actually flown at mainline would people still get into this nonsense?
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