ToiletDuck

Apparently you haven't looked at BB's past track record.


So why would RAH want to buy Compass? Few reasons. (not saying we are just saying there are a few reasons it's plausible).

First off NWA doesn't go through the trouble of creating a certificate and then just sell the planes. The cert. is where the money's at. RAH has E-170s and wants to be the only operator of them. Pilot group issues is nothing the company is worried about. After the last round of dealing with this issue the IBT is very firm on this and would make quick work of it. Anyone thinking Compass is running as cheap as it can might want to make a double take. It's not always just payscales but infrastructure. MX programs, staffing levels, etc. Things always get cheaper in bulk. A 32 plane fleet can't be run as efficiently as a 120 plane fleet. It all comes down to infrastructure.

BB would be foolish not to do everything he can to get his hands on those aircraft. Compass is junior enough where the pilots coming with the aircraft wouldn't add anything significant to labor costs. It would give RAH a monopoly on the aircraft and increase it's marketability. I know a CRJ7 can do the same thing but not in the same way. An airline likes giving the "mainline feel" when on their express carriers and a more comfortable seat, more head room, and larger storage space take care of that. Holding all the cards on them opens more doors to new codeshares and new contracts.

Schwartz

Whether owned or not, the flow up/down follows the planes. If it doesn't the # of DCI 71 to 76 seat jets is reduced to 85 from 120.

ToiletDuck

How did that number come to be? Is it based on a ration with mainline aircraft? The addition of NWA might alter those numbers.

unemployedagain

Here is a reason, do you remember how the midwest express pilots got hawked out of their jobs? Didn't they just start their furlough with wet leased aircraft from republic doing their flying? What a raw deal.

ToiletDuck

This has to do with Compass why?

king10pin02

they have to option to wet lease the planes, as of right now no planes are leased out

johnso29

That still does not solve the fact that Compass is NOT for sale. Doesn't make a lot of sense to sell them to anyone right now.

UPS1856

Everything is for sale in this business. Since when as making sense been a criteria for running an airline?

Schwartz

40. "Permitted aircraft type" means:
a. a propeller-driven aircraft configured with 70 or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 70,000 or fewer pounds, and
b. a jet aircraft certificated for operation in the United States for 50 or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 65,000 or fewer pounds, and
c. one of up to 255 jet aircraft configured with 51-70 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less ("70-seat jets"), and
d. one of up to 120 jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less ("76-seat jets"). The number of 76-seat jets may be increased above 120 by three 76-seat jets for each aircraft above the number of aircraft in the baseline fleet operated by the Company (in service, undergoing maintenance and operational spares) as of CBAID. The baseline fleet number will be 440+N, in which N is the number of aircraft (in service, undergoing maintenance and operational spares but not including permitted aircraft types) added to the Company’s baseline fleet from NWA. The number and type of all aircraft in the Company’s fleet on CBAID will be provided to the Association. The number of 70-seat jets plus 76-seat jets permitted by Section 1 B. 40. may not exceed 255.
Exception: Up to the 36 EMB-175s that were operated and/or ordered by Northwest prior to CBAID may continue to be operated with up to a maximum gross takeoff weight of 89,000 pounds.
e. once the number of permitted 76-seat jets is established, it will not be reduced. Exception one: If a pilot on the seniority list with an employment date prior to September 1, 2001 is placed on furlough, the Company will convert all 76-seat jets for operation as 70-seat jets.
Exception two: In the event the flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 and LOA 2006-14 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats specified in Section 1 B. 40. d. will revert to 85.
f. a carrier that operates any of the 70- or 76-seat jets not being operated as of November 1, 2004, may do so only if that carrier and the Company have agreed to terms for a preferential hiring process for pilots furloughed by the Company (i.e., a pilot furloughed by the Company will be given preferential hiring at a Delta Connection Carrier if he completes all new hire paper work, meets all new hire airman and medical qualifications, satisfies background checks and successfully completes an interview). The Company will offer preferential interviews for employment to airmen employed by a Delta Connection Carrier that offers preferential hiring to furloughed pilots under Section 1 B. 40. e., subject to the Company’s objectives for diversity and experience among newly hired pilots, and subject to the Company’s hiring obligations under the NWA CBA LOAs as they appear in Attachment C (i.e. NWA LOA 2006-10, 2006-14, and 2008-01). A pilot hired by a Delta Connection Carrier operating any of the 70- or 76-seat jets not being operated as of November 1, 2004 will not be required to resign his Delta seniority number in order to be hired by such carrier. Preferential hiring rights at Delta Connection Carriers for pilots furloughed by the Company provided herein will be in addition to any flow down rights such furloughed pilots may have pursuant to the NWA CBA LOAs as they appear in Attachment C (i.e. NWA LOA 2006-10, 2006-14, and 2008-01).

unemployedagain

are you saying that republic pilots are not flying midwest express routes as midwest express?