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Old 06-18-2008, 06:38 AM
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it is good if you want to spend the rest of your life at a regional....thanks scope
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The figure 50-55% is not in addition to anything that is status quo. This increase in capacity is a result of the 72, 76 seat a/c that XJ and CP are operating. Don't forget that 36 avros with 69 seats were removed from service as well as many saabs probably resulting in a decrease in regional capacity. Now that XJ has been in the getting back to our pre Ch11 size, the numbers are rebounding, add to that the MAINLINE created Compass, there is a net gain of 36 jets with >50 seats. Hardly anything to start a scope vs. regional argument about. Now, if NWA ALPA decided to allow more than 76 seats to be flown by regional partners... we are regressing and have a bigger issue.

Oh - XJ is still getting a flood of resumes each week. With only interviewing once a month now and adding to the pool, supply is outpacing the demand. I don't detect a problem attracting qualified applicants.
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The figure 50-55% is not in addition to anything that is status quo. This increase in capacity is a result of the 72, 76 seat a/c that XJ and CP are operating. Don't forget that 36 avros with 69 seats were removed from service as well as many saabs probably resulting in a decrease in regional capacity. Now that XJ has been in the getting back to our pre Ch11 size, the numbers are rebounding, add to that the MAINLINE created Compass, there is a net gain of 36 jets with >50 seats. Hardly anything to start a scope vs. regional argument about. Now, if NWA ALPA decided to allow more than 76 seats to be flown by regional partners... we are regressing and have a bigger issue.

Oh - XJ is still getting a flood of resumes each week. With only interviewing once a month now and adding to the pool, supply is outpacing the demand. I don't detect a problem attracting qualified applicants.
Yeah, flowbacks are really a nonissue at XJ, that alone gives it a huge advantage over CPS. It wouldn't take a very big furlough at NW to put every single pilot currently at CPS on the street. I knew that was a possibility when I took the job here, and it was a gamble. Anybody coming here NOW is making a huge gamble. It seems like most of the guys coming here now are doing so because they don't have much of a choice...ATA / Skyway / etc furloughees without a job.
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bored
The figure 50-55% is not in addition to anything that is status quo. This increase in capacity is a result of the 72, 76 seat a/c that XJ and CP are operating. Don't forget that 36 avros with 69 seats were removed from service as well as many saabs probably resulting in a decrease in regional capacity. Now that XJ has been in the getting back to our pre Ch11 size, the numbers are rebounding, add to that the MAINLINE created Compass, there is a net gain of 36 jets with >50 seats. Hardly anything to start a scope vs. regional argument about. Now, if NWA ALPA decided to allow more than 76 seats to be flown by regional partners... we are regressing and have a bigger issue.

Oh - XJ is still getting a flood of resumes each week. With only interviewing once a month now and adding to the pool, supply is outpacing the demand. I don't detect a problem attracting qualified applicants.

Thats exactly it. There is no change to the regionals. The 55% increase is what is already planned with the new 70 seaters that are coming and already planned for. Nothing has changed as far as scope.
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by XJPILOT1
That's a Regional INCREASE of 50% to 55%!!
That's good !!
growth at the regionals is not good unless of course you think making 70-80k a year for the rest of your career "good". GMAB
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by XJPILOT1
I think everyone here is reading that slide wrong. (Click link below to view slide)


That's a Regional INCREASE of 50% to 55%!!

That's good !!
incredibly short sited statement
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:51 AM
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incredibly short sited statement
understatement of the year!
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilot41
Put all your trust in ALPA, they always look out for your best interest.
True. Paying my ALPA dues is like flushing money down the toilet. I'd rather have the USAPA. At least they are willing to fight the good fight.
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 340Driver
incredibly short sited statement

Taken outta context (like everything posted in this forum) maybe. I sit in the same seat you do, with the same goals as most pilots. That 'short sited statement' addressed another statement further up the list about concerns over furloughs at the regional level. This was based on NWA's latest SEC filing.
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by par8head
it is good if you want to spend the rest of your life at a regional....thanks scope
What is with all the chicken littles. Rest of my life? The only thing you have for the rest of your life is herpes! This Industry changes constantly.

Sorry man, $75 - $95,000 a year working 12 days a month is-not-bad. What is NOT good is wondering if your regional will be around as long as you need an income. Mainline Airlines are not imune to extinction either as we have seen.

So tell me, what's the answer?
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