Superpilot92

Something else that isnt being discussed is that DAL is now in on this and they do not want to waste NWA cash. More importantly the amount of time any NWA pilot would be furloughed would be VERY short with the new aircraft that are coming to both NWA/DAL. DAL is already planning on replacing some of the dc9s with 737s and rumored md90's. Either way the cost to furlough for probably less than a year would be more than to keep us on and actually maintain staffing levels. People are also still retiring and i assure you once the equity is established a large chunk of the "gummers" will probably punch out. Mgmt knows this and knows they cant really rely on these guys sticking around. My point is there are a lot of factors that point to No furloughs. Fingers crossed

gushubble

Amen to that!

Justdoinmyjob

The last time around, we were told that it was cheaper to just sit someone rather than furlough them if they were going to be out less than 6 months.

Superpilot92

Flowthrough stays in effect for both Compass and Mesaba. Also there was an addition added that a flowthrough is transferable, i guess meaning that if a company is bought or sold the deal still goes.

Justdoinmyjob

So how does a flowback work? If say one DL and one NW guy get furloughed, do they both flow down, or does the DL guy go to the street and the NW guy flow down?

Seattlecfi

The whole point of the JPWA is that there is no NWA or DAL. We will only be DAL pilots.

Superpilot92

the details arent out yet on it. I just know its still there. I assume its for all DAL pilots and since we will all be DAL pilots i assume its for everyone. Hopefully no one has to use it in the reverse though.

Lighteningspeed

It does not matter whether you "care" how accountants do it because that's how they do it. Cost of retraining will not even show up on NWA financial statement. It will show up on Compass financial statement. However, you are missing the main point of my post and that is the cost of retraining few hundred pilots to fly E175 is minimal to NWA management. At Compass the ground school is CBT at home so there is minimal costs involved and the only real cost to Compass management is the sim training and even that is a drop in the bucket for NWA in the scheme of things. NWA will weigh the cost of retraining NWA pilots to other NWA mainline jets versus furloughing them and retraining them for Compass.

I hope NWA/DAL does not furlough, but last week on one of my commutes, a very senior NWA CA (28 years NWA) and his FO both said the furlough is inevitable when NWA is going to be parking 34 DC9s and around 15 A 319/320s and B757s by the end of this year. They did say though even if the furlough does happen, it maybe for a relatively short period, ie., a year.

I am with everyone here hoping no one gets furloughed, period.

Lighteningspeed

I hope you are right but at the NWA/DAL joint merger presentation, both the NWA rep and the DAL Pilot rep said the flowthrough needs to be renegotiated during the merger process, so I don't know how to interprete their statement other than to stay open minded about it. Our union rep did say the flowthrough will remain valid after the merger but he is a union rep and he is not privy to the top NWA/DAL management discussions.

Purpltail

That has been an advantage for a long, Squawk!