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Old 02-15-2020, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
I remember Air Wisconsin a few years ago, also a privately held company. I thought they were down for the count. I’m not sure about the level of communication within the Air Wisconsin group. But I do remember the frustration from the uncertainty while the owners were working on the United flying. Anyway, you know how that worked out. I’m just saying, there’s still hope
Well, during the Air Wisconsin - United deal, Air Wisconsin management kept telling pilots not to leave, and that something big was coming, but they couldn't say what it was yet and that they would regret leaving. They said it more than once and some people were doubtful and left, and some stayed and it worked out.
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Old 02-15-2020, 09:27 PM
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Well, during the Air Wisconsin - United deal, Air Wisconsin management kept telling pilots not to leave, and that something big was coming, but they couldn't say what it was yet and that they would regret leaving. They said it more than once and some people were doubtful and left, and some stayed and it worked out.
Air Wisconsin also owns there aircraft.. and there was no growth. Just taking all there 200’s in USair paint and repainting them in United... “something big” would be growth.. Anything less is just a trick..
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Old 02-15-2020, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
and these China Coronavirus problems are playing right into management)s hands. There is no topside scope for joint ventures. Even the hint that they may last the foreign carriers carry their international stuff might be enough to stampede a serious percentage of the widebody pilots who are suddenly going to be flying a whole lot less.

Try again! Most of the guys in talk to scope is dead on arrival. If mgmt wants more 76 seat aircraft they can bring a 100 seater to mainline. Too many pilots have seen what scope relaxation can do to a career
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Old 02-15-2020, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
Try again! Most of the guys in talk to scope is dead on arrival. If mgmt wants more 76 seat aircraft they can bring a 100 seater to mainline. Too many pilots have seen what scope relaxation can do to a career
I know the junior people feel that way. The older people less so. We shall see.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I know the junior people feel that way. The older people less so. We shall see.
well I just had number 300 on our seniority list on the JS and he was a no on scope.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:45 AM
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I’m more of a Listerine person myself..


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Old 02-16-2020, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
well I just had number 300 on our seniority list on the JS and he was a no on scope.
Everyone is a no on the jumpiest and in the crew room. When they cast a vote in private history has shown $$$ talks and scope walks.

”I don’t understand how it passed, everyone I talked to was a NO...”
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:11 AM
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Everyone is a no on the jumpiest and in the crew room. When they cast a vote in private history has shown $$$ talks and scope walks.

”I don’t understand how it passed, everyone I talked to was a NO...”
I hope you are wrong but probably not.

what is worse is that ALPA communication already seems to prep membership for a more “balanced” view on scope - so you know it is coming.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
I hope you are wrong but probably not.

what is worse is that ALPA communication already seems to prep membership for a more “balanced” view on scope - so you know it is coming.

Your banking Compass future on a Airline you currently don’t fly for, that just bought 49% in another airline, and Mesa that seems to know what UA wants... All my Compass friends will be out by spring. There not waiting for something magical. They will be at a Major or LLC.. they mention even if they get 20-40 more aircraft. It’s still a regional.. And they want to move in anyway..
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:24 AM
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until maybe 2024 when the construction is done and up to 103 foot wingspan will be able to go there..
Curious what they may send to ASE. The E175 doesn't have the climb performance to do it, unless you kicked a bunch of people off. Apart from mainline aircraft going in there, the 700 seems to be the only RJ that fits the bill.
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