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RemiDenton 12-20-2019 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Bike Handles (Post 2942629)
You mean 18 months? CPA is "technically" up in Summer of 2021.



So, with Deltas August announcement... this theory suggests the announcement will come of late 2020 winter for the AA draw down?

It isn’t 20 jets thru summer 2021, it’s just contracts thru 2021, right? Or until we’re all furloughed.

Bike Handles 12-20-2019 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by RemiDenton (Post 2942663)
So, with Deltas August announcement... this theory suggests the announcement will come of late 2020 winter for the AA draw down?

It isn’t 20 jets thru summer 2021, it’s just contracts thru 2021, right? Or until we’re all furloughed.

Who knows. All that I know is the current contract is up in Summer of 2021. I don't have any other information beyond that. As we all saw from our DL contract expiring Summer of 20', the draw down started months prior so that all the aircraft are off property at the expiration.

black cat 12-20-2019 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Naviator (Post 2942601)
You spelled months wrong.


Originally Posted by Bike Handles (Post 2942629)
You mean 18 months? CPA is "technically" up in Summer of 2021.


Originally Posted by RemiDenton (Post 2942663)
So, with Deltas August announcement... this theory suggests the announcement will come of late 2020 winter for the AA draw down?

It isn’t 20 jets thru summer 2021, it’s just contracts thru 2021, right? Or until we’re all furloughed.


Originally Posted by Bike Handles (Post 2942670)
Who knows. All that I know is the current contract is up in Summer of 2021. I don't have any other information beyond that. As we all saw from our DL contract expiring Summer of 20', the draw down started months prior so that all the aircraft are off property at the expiration.

Compass pilots say the contract is up "xxxx". Envoy pilots say the contract is up "xxxx". The truth is that Joe Line Pilot doesn't know when the AA Compass contract is up. If anyone would like to post a hard source that isn't hearsay...then by all means. But the details of such aren't publicly published.

RemiDenton 12-20-2019 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by black cat (Post 2942680)
Compass pilots say the contract is up "xxxx". Envoy pilots say the contract is up "xxxx". The truth is that Joe Line Pilot doesn't know when the AA Compass contract is up. If anyone would like to post a hard source that isn't hearsay...then by all means. But the details of such aren't publicly published.


Idk if I’d say “Joe Line Pilot”, as much as “Joe Reserve Pilot”. Almost half of us are on RSV by now it seems [emoji23]

rickair7777 12-21-2019 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by black cat (Post 2942680)
Compass pilots say the contract is up "xxxx". Envoy pilots say the contract is up "xxxx". The truth is that Joe Line Pilot doesn't know when the AA Compass contract is up. If anyone would like to post a hard source that isn't hearsay...then by all means. But the details of such aren't publicly published.

It's gotta be in the SEC stuff, should be able to google that.

pitchattitude 12-21-2019 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Bike Handles (Post 2942670)
Who knows. All that I know is the current contract is up in Summer of 2021. I don't have any other information beyond that. As we all saw from our DL contract expiring Summer of 20', the draw down started months prior so that all the aircraft are off property at the expiration.

The planes were delivered at about two a month. If they come off at two a month, that would take 10 months to draw them down.

BobbyLeeSwagger 12-21-2019 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bike Handles (Post 2942670)
Who knows. All that I know is the current contract is up in Summer of 2021

I can confirm this

https://i.ibb.co/9gMTgzN/20191221-202217.jpg

Bike Handles 12-21-2019 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2943152)



Even with photo evidence, Envoy pilots will say it’s fake. [emoji23]


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NeverFlexTO 12-22-2019 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by black cat (Post 2942680)
Compass pilots say the contract is up "xxxx". Envoy pilots say the contract is up "xxxx". The truth is that Joe Line Pilot doesn't know when the AA Compass contract is up. If anyone would like to post a hard source that isn't hearsay...then by all means. But the details of such aren't publicly published.

It’s always been two automatic renewals based on performance till 2024....one next year and one in 2022...the AA jets if nothing changes will be around that long unless another player comes in who wants CZ to just fly for them (United). I will not cite my sources but those are facts that many have heard going through upgrade CELL training in prior years directly from the DO’s and CP’s mouth

Never say never but the Moxy/Breeze thing is today and has been for a long time, never a plausible future for Compass. I really hope people aren’t investing themselves into the idea that this will happen because, unless something drastically has or will change, that carrier will start as a non-union entity. Which speaks volumes as to why they located their HQ in SLC

StallWeezy 12-22-2019 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO (Post 2943344)
It’s always been two automatic renewals based on performance till 2024....one next year and one in 2022...the AA jets if nothing changes will be around that long unless another player comes in who wants CZ to just fly for them (United). I will not cite my sources but those are facts that many have heard going through upgrade CELL training in prior years directly from the DO’s and CP’s mouth

Never say never but the Moxy/Breeze thing is today and has been for a long time, never a plausible future for Compass. I really hope people aren’t investing themselves into the idea that this will happen because, unless something drastically has or will change that carrier will start as a non-union entity...

Exactly. I’ve had an a$$ full of the moxy theory people. Like really? I just got off the phone with breeze. “Compass who?”


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