Originally Posted by Av8rPHX (Post 2942381)

We need to incorporate some Baby Yoda memes into this thread...calling BobbyLeeSwagger and TillerTemptress


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Originally Posted by Mitchell Gant (Post 2941787)

Everyone was saying United flying but is there a chance American (via Envoy) could be our knight in shining armor?

American does more flying out of LAX then any other airline, used to have a base in LAX with American Eagle, already has an operation through Compass doing flying in LAX, are getting more E175...

Im really reaching but at this point who isn’t!

Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2942128)

The theory/hope that has repeatedly been voiced in this thread since Neeleman announced he would consider starting his new Moxy/Breeze startup with surplus Emb-190 aircraft as Azul replaces them with E-2 aircraft next year until the scheduled A220 aircraft arrive, and since Compass already issues type certificates for the Embraer 170/190, and since we seem to have a surplus of Emb 170/190 qualified pilots right now was that Compass pilots might be candidates for that flying and become the cadre for the new startup. Unlike the Delta flying we are losing, the AA contract we have apparently doesn’t prohibit that.

So OK, I guess I’ll just ask you why if you didn’t understand what I posted rather than simply admitting your ignorance in not understanding the punchline and asking clarification you felt compelled to get abusive, obnoxious, and in-your-face about my posting:



Dude.

Originally Posted by morerightrudder (Post 2942506)

Envoy is contractually guaranteed all new AA 175 flying until they get up to 130 planes. They have around 90 now. After that, it is legally possible.

But we were never meant to operate for American, as it was a whipsaw move against Envoy to get them to ratify a concessionary contract.

Also, for those still on the Moxy train, remember that the initial group of JetBlue pilots did not even get guaranteed employment. They got individual employment contracts for five years. Renewal was not automatic.

Originally Posted by Mitchell Gant (Post 2942548)

I’m not saying we’ll get more American flying but be acquired by Envoy to start west coast flying for American/Envoy.

Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2942557)

Envoy is wholly owned by AAG, so Envoy would not buy Compass. It would have to be AAG do the buying. AAG already own those aircraft and a certificate to fly them (Envoy). They decide who can fly them (and where) so there would be no reason to purchase Compass.

Originally Posted by yrbroom (Post 2942579)

...and has a looming AA contract ending in the next couple of years.

Originally Posted by yrbroom (Post 2942579)

Doesn't mean it would cost a whole lot to purchase Compass. CP was only sold to TSH in the first place for $20 million. What's its value now that it lost the Delta flying (nearly 2/3 of the flying) and has a looming AA contract ending in the next couple years? Probably not a whole lot. That would all just mean you have a ready pilot group vs having to put a ton of people through initial.

It's hard for me to imagine that scenario described, and I don't think this will happen, but just saying that it probably wouldn't be too difficult - until you get to the merging seniority lists thing if it comes to that.

Originally Posted by Naviator (Post 2942601)

You spelled months wrong.