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BobbyLeeSwagger 12-17-2019 09:09 PM

What if the new opportunity is Amazon flying? Thoughts?

MrToomz 12-17-2019 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2940960)
What if the new opportunity is Amazon flying? Thoughts?

Tried this theory out a few months back with no traction from the other seat... but, Sun Country made it work.

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JohnnyBekkestad 12-18-2019 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2940518)
Doesn't mean OO has to.... for a very long time they kept a lot of excess reserves in SLC for that reason, and would them fly them to other bases as needed. That involved a lot of TDY, sitting hotel reserve out of base, which people complained about too.

Yeah it was super fun being in DTW or MSP getting crappy 18-20h four day trips on the Deuce, while SLC crews had deadheads on either way, flying the 900 for 4 days getting paid 25-30h.

Bike Handles 12-18-2019 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2940960)
What if the new opportunity is Amazon flying? Thoughts?

As much as I would love an announcement with SOMETHING about new flying, I really hope we don't end up in the Amazon cargo environment... It does seem like everyone is getting some type of new flying or contract renewals and yet here we are, quiet as can be.

Taco280AI 12-18-2019 07:53 AM

Didn't he say if you don't hear anything by the end of the year I'd start to worry? Well... it's about here.

Bike Handles 12-18-2019 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Taco280AI (Post 2941124)
Didn't he say if you don't hear anything by the end of the year I'd start to worry? Well... it's about here.

I believe so? I'm sure in their defense they will say that the statement was related to the previous agreement and not this "minority interest" that is upon us. One thing's for sure, January is coming and I continuously meet people who are pulling the ripcord come the new year.

BobbyLeeSwagger 12-18-2019 08:38 AM

That's right, he did say that. Something easy to say in October lol, but now we are 2 weeks away from the end of the year (according to my madagascaran calendar) with no news and its just laughable now that they still expect us to 'standby' because we 'wont want to miss this.' the mesa flying was the only thing that fit except for one small detail-- RT said something to the effect that this would not be the standard type of flying or it would change the industry or something (someone with a better memory feel free to correct me).

That's why I bring up amazon.. They've already crossed assumed industry lines with mesa and now sun country flying for them. I'm not itching to fly a 737 for regional pay, I think we can all agree that's not a win for pilots across the board. But I wonder if that's the opportunity if there even is one. I'm not planning to wait and find out, but I've been trying to leave since I got here so nothing new there lol.

Mandrake 12-18-2019 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2941153)
That's right, he did say that. Something easy to say in October lol, but now we are 2 weeks away from the end of the year (according to my madagascaran calendar) with no news and its just laughable now that they still expect us to 'standby' because we 'wont want to miss this.' the mesa flying was the only thing that fit except for one small detail-- RT said something to the effect that this would not be the standard type of flying or it would change the industry or something (someone with a better memory feel free to correct me).

That's why I bring up amazon.. They've already crossed assumed industry lines with mesa and now sun country flying for them. I'm not itching to fly a 737 for regional pay, I think we can all agree that's not a win for pilots across the board. But I wonder if that's the opportunity if there even is one. I'm not planning to wait and find out, but I've been trying to leave since I got here so nothing new there lol.

Hoping you get the job you’re after. Agreed, this amazon flying is bad for pilots across the board and you really don’t want to be a part of it. If so, it would be a terrific opportunity for contract negotiations as they would have to open up 737 rates. We would have leverage to clean up some of the abysmal contract sections and language (“company need” anyone?). I think ALPA needs to take a step back and address the negative impacts of this Amazon whipsaw that is being created. It negatively impacts the profession and leads down a very dark path.

Bike Handles 12-18-2019 09:24 AM

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jungle driver 12-18-2019 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2941153)
That's right, he did say that. Something easy to say in October lol, but now we are 2 weeks away from the end of the year (according to my madagascaran calendar) with no news and its just laughable now that they still expect us to 'standby' because we 'wont want to miss this.' the mesa flying was the only thing that fit except for one small detail-- RT said something to the effect that this would not be the standard type of flying or it would change the industry or something (someone with a better memory feel free to correct me).

That's why I bring up amazon.. They've already crossed assumed industry lines with mesa and now sun country flying for them. I'm not itching to fly a 737 for regional pay, I think we can all agree that's not a win for pilots across the board. But I wonder if that's the opportunity if there even is one. I'm not planning to wait and find out, but I've been trying to leave since I got here so nothing new there lol.

I am starting to worry that Amazon might actually be the new partner. the real key indicator is that "minority interest", Amazon holds a minority stake in Atlas, Southern and now will also have a stake in Sun Country! It would not surprise me at all if compass was next.


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