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Old 12-13-2019, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by StallWeezy
I just don’t know how you can think they’re trying to retain pilots. They’ve literally said verbatim: “We can afford to lose some pilots.” And “If you have an opportunity with your dream job, you should take it.”
Attrition has suddenly spiked and we ain’t seen nothing yet. August - December 2019: “lost a good amount.”
January 2020: “hold my beer”
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by StallWeezy
I just don’t know how you can think they’re trying to retain pilots. They’ve literally said verbatim: “We can afford to lose some pilots.” And “If you have an opportunity with your dream job, you should take it.”
Uhh..

Because they haven’t FURLOUGHED anybody? Yes, I think they can afford to lose some pilots, and getting rid of those that have been here the longest and cost the most, either by flow to Frontier or simply encourage them to take some of the great opportunities out there. But they are still retaining people that they demonstratively don’t not NEED right now. Look at the captains on reserve...
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by s3cLyfe
Attrition has suddenly spiked and we ain’t seen nothing yet. August - December 2019: “lost a good amount.”
January 2020: “hold my beer”
And if/when the MAX gets recertified US majors will need 2000 new hires just to staff the aircraft currently parked.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by StallWeezy
“If you have an opportunity with your dream job, you should take it.”
I love that they have to clarify that if a major calls you shouldn't stick it out at a regional to wait and see what happens
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Uhh..

Because they haven’t FURLOUGHED anybody? Yes, I think they can afford to lose some pilots, and getting rid of those that have been here the longest and cost the most, either by flow to Frontier or simply encourage them to take some of the great opportunities out there. But they are still retaining people that they demonstratively don’t not NEED right now. Look at the captains on reserve...
Nothing to do with furloughs. All the late summer/fall CJOs are heading out in January. Don’t take my word for it. When the numbers are published it will be evident.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Uhh..

Because they haven’t FURLOUGHED anybody? Yes, I think they can afford to lose some pilots, and getting rid of those that have been here the longest and cost the most, either by flow to Frontier or simply encourage them to take some of the great opportunities out there. But they are still retaining people that they demonstratively don’t not NEED right now. Look at the captains on reserve...
Alright, I guess retain means something different to me - like in the form of a retention bonus like in the pinnacle, pre-endeavor days. If you ask me, a soft furlough is already taking place. Kicking pilots out of their bases does their dirty work for them. I mean it’s 12 days til Xmas anyway. They’re gonna at least try to wait til the new year before full blown furloughs.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by yrbroom
I love that they have to clarify that if a major calls you shouldn't stick it out at a regional to wait and see what happens
Lol I was scratching my head at that one myself
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Old 12-13-2019, 12:15 PM
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Why would anyone ever want to leave? Commuting to sit reserve at the crash pad while not being called and not flying? Living the dream
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Originally Posted by yrbroom
I love that they have to clarify that if a major calls you shouldn't stick it out at a regional to wait and see what happens

Advice gems ... THIS is why I read APC.
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Old 12-13-2019, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
For the sake of conversation, it wouldn't really fit AA's growth model. They are trying to grow their DFW and ORD bases with more 76 seater regional feed.
Most new long haul routes have been announced from the east coast or DFW. West coast seems stagnant on the profitable long haul connections, so no need to increase regional feed there.

Also, I believe AA sees that the potential new flying for Compass might be a conflict of interest. So I think they are making contingency plans already.
After the Mesa deal, there is no regional flying left for grabs (unless Alaska pulls a rabbit out of the hat), and you can't be initial cadre for anything and keep flying for AA. That would be a huge mess. And operating 200NN to 219NN isn't a viable business plan.

All of this is obviously 100% speculation. It's worth what you paid for it
AA is scoped out on large RJ’s. With the Max down and their E190’s going, and Envoy taking 35 more E175 deliveries they are scoped our.
Mesa will be reconfiguring CRJ900’s to 65 seats.
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