Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2934763)
I’m not sure that giving up AA flying would even be necessary. I haven’t actually been able to come up with a copy of the AA scope limitation, but from my understanding most major airline scope limitations are specific to THEIR code shared flights, not to individual regionals.
In theory at least, that would not stop a regional from having other contracts with other companies that are not scope compliant for the first company. Indeed, that appears to be what Mesa is looking into doing with 737s. For that matter, the Delta birds we have been flying aren’t scope compliant for a lot of companies that Republic and SkyWest fly for (MTOW 89,000 too high), and never were for AA flying all the years we have been doing it, yet that apparently hasn’t stopped anything. Anybody got an online reference for the AA scope clause? As far as Mesa and 737’s go, I doubt that they will affect scope at all as they will be cargo aircraft that do not affect Delta as long as staffing isn’t an issue. |
Originally Posted by Bike Handles
(Post 2934599)
I think it's going to be really interesting to see how Jan/Feb. plays out. Every single day I'm meeting more and more people with opportunities lined up.
Furthermore, if what RT said about the announcement not being connected is true, then if our "go-forward plan" has anything to do with UAX, I highly doubt it deals with the 175. Perhaps the plan has nothing to do with United at all (where are my Moxy fans). Based on what they've said since the DAL announcement, I highly doubt it would be AA that's involved in the go forward plan? Also, it's really interesting that Mesa is getting more UAX flying but yet also adding 737's??? |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2934572)
GREAT negotiating climate. Lots of other options out there. Everybody already type-rated so zero training risk. Relatively young group so they start low on the pay scale.
ESOP to get buy in from all takers in making it a success, then half the difference between Compass E-175 rates and JB E-190 rates. Then start negotiating rates for the A220s. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2934594)
They CLAIMED the contracts that Mesa had renewed and the additional E-175s Mesa will be flying for UAX were not connected to the ‘New Opportunities’ Compass management was pursuing which were still being pursued.
The veracity of that claim for those of us out here in the hinterlands is sort of unknowable. |
Originally Posted by itsmytime
(Post 2934895)
How long are you guys going to let mgmt drag you around by the nose? They said an announcement would be made in 2 weeks back in August. It should be clear by now that your leadership is FOS.
So I figure they HAVE to be trying, not out of the goodness of their hearts but simply for their own good. Whether they will be successful or not remains to be seen. |
Originally Posted by jungle driver
(Post 2934876)
why split the rates? I would say that if we started flying E190's then JB E190 rates should be the benchmark and we as a pilot group should except nothing less!
And it was a way for JB to keep their startup costs lower until the business was established and turning a profit. Compass has always been a place for people who liked to roll the dice. |
Originally Posted by jungle driver
(Post 2934876)
why split the rates? I would say that if we started flying E190's then JB E190 rates should be the benchmark and we as a pilot group should except nothing less!
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
(Post 2934895)
How long are you guys going to let mgmt drag you around by the nose? They said an announcement would be made in 2 weeks back in August. It should be clear by now that your leadership is FOS.
2nd: Do you seriously think we need you to tell us this? Thanks!!!☺️ 3rd: I’ve never had so many interview invites in my life than in the past 2 months. Thanks ALPA! |
Originally Posted by StallWeezy
(Post 2934940)
I’ve never had so many interview invites in my life than in the past 2 months. Thanks ALPA!
But yes, some really decent opportunities are abundant even now. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2934949)
You think it’s good now, wait until you can check the furlough box. Every pilot on a hiring team who has ever been furloughed (and most senior enough to be in that position have) goes the extra mile for you.
But yes, some really decent opportunities are abundant even now. It's like some of you forget who owns compass. The 20 AA 175's will be transferred to TSA and UA will give 20 more of XJet's parked 145's to TSA to fly. |
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