This is my guess. If there is new flying, my guess is there won’t be a plane on property until Fall.

New flying may not come til summer, but the training should come by spring... [emoji58]right?!

Are you anticipating a new type?

I’m not anticipating. It’s one of the options and the process if it went that way, right? I have 12 hours since mid October. I’m not hopefully for jack.

Had a buddy ask me, “Why the hell hasnt TSH furloughed yet if this isn’t real?!? Something has to be there, you should wait it out!”

And then I said, “oh yea! Is that what you’d do?”

And then he said, “no man, I just got hired by Delta. Sucks to be you”

Well, cheap as T-SHIRT is you gotta think they BELIEVE they can pull a rabbit out of the hat. Otherwise they’d be furloughing like crazy. Of course, by the time the senior SEA and PHX guys got done involuntarily displacing LAX guys I’m not sure it would save all that much money.

I feel like it's not as much of a money thing, it's more of a reputation thing. If they furlough, who out of their right mind would go to Compass next year after whatever deal happens?

"Compass furloughed pilots in 2020, ______ Regional didn't." - Pretty easy way to decide on where to go.

Ground speed mini is never below Vref. GS mini compares the wind entered into the Perf approach page and compares it to actual wind experienced on the aircraft, and adds up to maintain a ground speed. Ground speed mini does not ignore 1.3 VSo. It only adds more so your indicated airspeed is even higher.

Yes I’m aware but like someone else stated vRef is 1.23Vso...all I’m saying is other aircraft besides the 175 fly below green dot, which is not relevant when fully configured for landing. I specifically mentioned the bus because the maneuvering speeds disappear when in landing configuration. I think we are all trying to say the same thing here in different ways

175 flies happy below the green dot.
74000 landing weight with ice speeds and flaps full. You are almost 10kts below the dot.

There's a demon that lives past the green dot. Men said it couldn't be broken past. Those that tried felt their controls get loose, had hard landings in the flare, and even had LCA bust them with no support from the FAA....

Que heroic music... until a steely eyed man called dera proved them all wrong, and history was made!

Gosh I hope at least a few people get this, and no dig at you dera, this coversation is getting goofy and made me think of this movie reference.:D