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Old 11-16-2019, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
You know, 10 or 15 years ago this would have been a total bummer. But even if the worst happens, there are lateral jobs everywhere that are begging for anyone holding an ATP, a type rating, and virtually any amount of 121 time. This ain’t 2005 with nobody hiring, everybody furloughing, and guys who had worked for honest-to-God major airlines losing pensions they had worked a couple of decades to earn.

I do think that if Compass goes under, Frontier’s recruiting problems are going to be solved for a year or two though, since the TSH flow agreement with them was primarily designed to LIMIT the attrition from Compass to Frontier, not to facilitate it.

So it’s your choice. Roll the dice and stick around and see if the seniority you already have is going to prove valuable or get a jump on everyone here by establishing seniority elsewhere. Only time will tell which was the better decision. My bias is that as long as I can log 70 hours a month here I’m probably going to do precisely that, unless/until one of my apps to a major comes through.
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It's definitely a total bummer for me and a lot of people. It's not like anyone wants to leave and make a lateral move. It's too bad this happened, I would have enjoyed sticking around for a while and building some pic time at cpz. Sadly I think in the next 2/3 months there aren't gonna be enough people left to cover the flying, even with planes going away and it's gonna get ugly. I tried to stay optimistic but it's time to move on and roll the dice again
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AirplanesRkewl
Sadly I think in the next 2/3 months there aren't gonna be enough people left to cover the flying, even with planes going away and it's gonna get ugly. I tried to stay optimistic but it's time to move on and roll the dice again
To each his own but I’m not sure I follow the logic. You think there is going to be TOO MUCH flying so you are going elsewhere?

This is the regionals. The name of the game is get in, get the hours, and go elsewhere. Unless you ASPIRE to be a regional lifer. You are sitting at the start of the greatest demand for major airline pilots in the last 3 or 4 decades. Why wouldn’t you want to log hours?
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
To each his own but I’m not sure I follow the logic. You think there is going to be TOO MUCH flying so you are going elsewhere?

This is the regionals. The name of the game is get in, get the hours, and go elsewhere. Unless you ASPIRE to be a regional lifer. You are sitting at the start of the greatest demand for major airline pilots in the last 3 or 4 decades. Why wouldn’t you want to log hours?
Cuz it’s hardly been about hours for some time now. People need employment first and foremost. Flying your butt off to “get in, get out” isn’t really realistic for most in my experience.
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by StallWeezy
Cuz it’s hardly been about hours for some time now. People need employment first and foremost. Flying your butt off to “get in, get out” isn’t really realistic in my experience.
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
To each his own but I’m not sure I follow the logic. You think there is going to be TOO MUCH flying so you are going elsewhere?

This is the regionals. The name of the game is get in, get the hours, and go elsewhere. Unless you ASPIRE to be a regional lifer. You are sitting at the start of the greatest demand for major airline pilots in the last 3 or 4 decades. Why wouldn’t you want to log hours?
OK Rick Leach, whatever you say.
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
To each his own but I’m not sure I follow the logic. You think there is going to be TOO MUCH flying so you are going elsewhere?

This is the regionals. The name of the game is get in, get the hours, and go elsewhere. Unless you ASPIRE to be a regional lifer. You are sitting at the start of the greatest demand for major airline pilots in the last 3 or 4 decades. Why wouldn’t you want to log hours?
Who aspires to be a regional lifer lol. And no I don't think there is going to be too much flying, I think we are gonna lose too many pilots and it's gonna be a sh!t show. just about everyone I've flown with or ran into has some other option they are pursuing. There are plenty more stable opportunities to log hours. There aren't gonna be any hours to log in a few months. No need to stick around waiting for this new opportunity to come around. If there is this magical new opportunity I guarantee it's at least a year before anyone even touches one of the planes.
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyDeltaMSP
OK Rick Leach, whatever you say.
Oh, grow up.
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Old 11-16-2019, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AirplanesRkewl
Who aspires to be a regional lifer lol. And no I don't think there is going to be too much flying, I think we are gonna lose too many pilots and it's gonna be a sh!t show. just about everyone I've flown with or ran into has some other option they are pursuing. There are plenty more stable opportunities to log hours. There aren't gonna be any hours to log in a few months.
Hey, like everyone else, I’m hedging my bets - which is why I know there are decent opportunities out there. The issue is whether to ride this horse a little longer to see if they can pull a rabbit out of the at, or leave early. If they can’t get more flying I think this place will fold. I think the overhead cost would eat any 20 ac fleet alive.


What I didn’t understand - and don’t agree with - was your comment that in 2-3 months there won’t be enough people to fly the lines we will have. You may be correct, I suppose, anything is possible,but that sure wouldn’t be my guess.
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Old 11-16-2019, 01:33 PM
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It was a question that was brought up, and deflected on the call. If we lose a third, or even half of our pilot group, will there be enough pilots for the new flying? Or even the current flying for that matter.

Are a lot of people waiting on class dates, especially captains.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:23 PM
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It was a question that was brought up, and deflected on the call. If we lose a third, or even half of our pilot group, will there be enough pilots for the new flying? Or even the current flying for that matter.

Are a lot of people waiting on class dates, especially captains.
I believe RT's answer to the question was "once the new opportunity is announced he has no concerns about being able to attracted new applicants" a little deflection be not totally.
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