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Old 10-25-2019, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by s3cLyfe
Who says I’m not leaving? Don’t come on hear and cry about getting furloughed come 2020.
Fair enough lol. But let's be real, it's not beneficial when we just post about how this place is "over". Really none of us have the answers.
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Old 10-25-2019, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bike Handles
Fair enough lol. But let's be real, it's not beneficial when we just post about how this place is "over". Really none of us have the answers.


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Old 10-25-2019, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by s3cLyfe
Who says I’m not leaving? Don’t come on hear and cry about getting furloughed come 2020.
Why cry? Even if it happens there are good options out there. If you want to jump now and beat me to them, then best of luck to you. If I want to stick around and see if management can pull a rabbit out of the hat, why does that upset you?

If we eventually wind up at the same company again, you’ll have seniority over me. If I’m willing to take the risk of a few months seniority and you aren’t, it’s to your benefit if I’m wrong. If I’m right, it’s to my benefit.

Either way we are both going to have jobs because any regional out there will take either of us in preference to some CFI with 1475 hours and only 25 of that ME, with no ATP, which is what they are taking now.

So why all the angst? I’m a big boy and if I am making a mistake it’s me that will pay the price. I’m not criticizing you for taking what you see as a better opportunity.

As for management lying to us, like I already said, I believe their jobs too are on the line. You ever read section 6 of the contract? Here are a few excepts:

The Company will reimburse a Pilot for moving expenses, so long as the Pilot moves to a new residence that is within one-hundred and fifty (150) miles of the new Domicile airport when he is:
1. required to move involuntarily or is displaced from one Domicile to another which is more than fifty (50) miles from his previous Domicile, or
When the Company is required to pay moving expenses, the Pilot will be reimbursed as follows:
1. A Pilot shall receive the following expenses for a professional mover (including shipping and insurance, loading and unloading) for household and personal goods, not to exceed twelve thousand (12,000) pounds, from the previous Domicile to the new Domicile, or from the Pilot’s residence to the new Domicile, whichever is shorter. The Company has the right to control the shipping method and the selection of the professional mover. In selecting the mover, the Company and the Pilot will mutually agree on a reputable, bonded furniture moving company. The Pilot will gather quotes from three (3) such moving companies, and the Company shall select one (1) of these three (3).
Now I personally don’t think the company can afford to cover all the expenses of shutting down two bases including paying for involuntary displacements and existing overhead if it’s only doing the flying that can be done by a 20 aircraft fleet. So I think they are doing everything they can to get new flying, because otherwise they too are out of a job.

They may or may not be able to do that but why all the angst directed at them or to your fellow pilots who simply want to bet differently than you do? The sky is NOT falling. We all have marketable skills and the job market is good, and the regionals are always a cr@pshoot.

Make whatever contingency planning you want, but don’t badmouth others for their planning. We are all in the same boat.
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Old 10-25-2019, 04:05 PM
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Make whatever contingency planning you want, but don’t badmouth others for their planning. We are all in the same boat.
I don't think anyone is getting badmouthed here. We're all just venting frustrations and assumptions of where this is headed. The truth is, management isn't showing us the respect their asking for. For me, as a bottom 10% guy, The furlough is inevitable. I can't believe I just applied to two other regionals but hey, it is what it is.

Weeks, any idea on when the next announcement is?!? I need some good news.
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Old 10-25-2019, 05:32 PM
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Just wanted to give a shoutout to TVB. The union updates are on point! Really sounds like he’s out there fighting for all of us daily. Keep up the great work!
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:45 PM
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Any (more) ppl around here get the stache going for movember??
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Old 10-26-2019, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hippieflyer
Just wanted to give a shoutout to TVB. The union updates are on point! Really sounds like he’s out there fighting for all of us daily. Keep up the great work!
Yes I enjoyed reading that email. He seems just as frustrated as we all are. Though DL is taking more flying in November apparently. I wonder if they are starting to sweat due to our mx situation or should I say lack there of. I think they might be worried about pax being stranded around Thanksgiving.

As much as I would love a bottom of the 9th miracle, I fear the damage has been done. There are too many people who have left/will leave in the next 2-3 months. Right around the 2 biggest months during our winter season. I see it and I think DL sees it (see above). Even if Compass got more flying, I'm not so sure we would be able to staff it. Every CA I know has either an interview or CJO. I would say about half of the FOs I fly with either have an interview or are just gonna stick it out because they are junior and don't have much too lose.

The only thing I can think of is that they do have 20 planes coming but those probably wouldn't be on property until Summer/Fall 2020. So maybe they are betting on enough people to leave until that happens hence why they are delaying the announcement as then a lot of people might stick around.

Just pure speculation. I sincerely hope this place keeps running. I just lose hope as each day passes and especially after the tone of the last union email.
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Old 10-26-2019, 04:39 AM
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Saw no less than 14 crewmembers “randomly” selected this morning at a former CPZ base that gets cold in the winter. Best part was the 9E CA who just laughed and said “oh well if we take a delay for this”
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Old 10-26-2019, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by thrustisamust
Any (more) ppl around here get the stache going for movember??
No. We have to look presentable at interviews.
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Old 10-26-2019, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by N914FJ
Saw no less than 14 crewmembers “randomly” selected this morning at a former CPZ base that gets cold in the winter. Best part was the 9E CA who just laughed and said “oh well if we take a delay for this”
The sad thing is this is just institutional obnoxiousness. TSA security is pretty worthless under the best of circumstances. Their own IG is appalled at how poorly they do in their own testing.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-...ry?id=51022188

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/...y-holes-120117

So their response is to harass the pilots that actually FLY the aircraft?
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