Compass Updates 2: Revenge of the Sit
09-19-2019, 05:06 PM
#3001
Moderator
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee
Posts: 3,199
Had a moment of clarity today, and it felt good.
09-19-2019, 05:22 PM
#3002
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 41
Like I've been saying.... It's unlikely that express jet is going to be able to staff ALL of those new planes. Probably some. Their profile says they were planing on hiring 600 pilots in 2019. I wonder if they are on glide slope for that or close. The key is Captains, of course.
So let's look at the airplane numbers.
1. They've been planning on 20+ additional E175s for united for sometime. That's not really news.
2. I'm not sure how many of their current 13 are included in that number but their profile also says they are expecting 25 more... Doesn't mean it's based on a concrete deal but it's something to start from.
3. On June 19th United placed a FIRM order for 20 E175s and optioned 19 more. The deliveries for THIS ORDER are slated to start 2nd quarter of 2020. (aka 1Jan2020). However,....
4. As of June 30th Embraer reported 38 FIRM OUTSTANDING E175s owed to United Airlines.
Soooo
Who can staff them?
Who can upgrade or hire enough CAPTAINS.
Hiring 600 pilots doesn't mean much if 589 of them have zero 121 time....
So let's look at the airplane numbers.
1. They've been planning on 20+ additional E175s for united for sometime. That's not really news.
2. I'm not sure how many of their current 13 are included in that number but their profile also says they are expecting 25 more... Doesn't mean it's based on a concrete deal but it's something to start from.
3. On June 19th United placed a FIRM order for 20 E175s and optioned 19 more. The deliveries for THIS ORDER are slated to start 2nd quarter of 2020. (aka 1Jan2020). However,....
4. As of June 30th Embraer reported 38 FIRM OUTSTANDING E175s owed to United Airlines.
Soooo
Who can staff them?
Who can upgrade or hire enough CAPTAINS.
Hiring 600 pilots doesn't mean much if 589 of them have zero 121 time....
09-19-2019, 05:42 PM
#3003
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,120
They are scarcely the only airline with problems finding people to upgrade.
There are regional DEC and near DEC jobs aplenty, most unfortunately a pretty long commute eastwards...
There are regional DEC and near DEC jobs aplenty, most unfortunately a pretty long commute eastwards...
09-19-2019, 07:45 PM
#3004
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 272
Ha, we went from 95 hour lines and the grid being green everywhere in LA in September to 75 hour lines and not a single day green in October. Does scheduling not know an in between??
09-19-2019, 08:34 PM
#3005
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 153
I honestly think it's their strategy to keep the new hires around. If we all saw next month 40+ rsv each day and no open duty periods there'd be no flying to be had. Also they get to pay the lineholders right at min pay and same with us reserves. OR they just totally F it up no matter what?
09-20-2019, 05:49 AM
#3006
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 358
So this is a good one from the OO forum.
"They are also saving ERJ spots in January after the holidays for Compass pilots....
Compass is not even trying to find replacement flying at this time so I hope the Compass pilots take advantage of the opportunity. It could be they are not trying because they already have something lined up but cannot announce it, but I would not rely on that theory."
"They are also saving ERJ spots in January after the holidays for Compass pilots....
Compass is not even trying to find replacement flying at this time so I hope the Compass pilots take advantage of the opportunity. It could be they are not trying because they already have something lined up but cannot announce it, but I would not rely on that theory."
09-20-2019, 05:54 AM
#3007
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 744
Like I've been saying.... It's unlikely that express jet is going to be able to staff ALL of those new planes. Probably some. Their profile says they were planing on hiring 600 pilots in 2019. I wonder if they are on glide slope for that or close. The key is Captains, of course.
So let's look at the airplane numbers.
1. They've been planning on 20+ additional E175s for united for sometime. That's not really news.
2. I'm not sure how many of their current 13 are included in that number but their profile also says they are expecting 25 more... Doesn't mean it's based on a concrete deal but it's something to start from.
3. On June 19th United placed a FIRM order for 20 E175s and optioned 19 more. The deliveries for THIS ORDER are slated to start 2nd quarter of 2020. (aka 1Jan2020). However,....
4. As of June 30th Embraer reported 38 FIRM OUTSTANDING E175s owed to United Airlines.
Soooo
Who can staff them?
Who can upgrade or hire enough CAPTAINS.
Hiring 600 pilots doesn't mean much if 589 of them have zero 121 time....
So let's look at the airplane numbers.
1. They've been planning on 20+ additional E175s for united for sometime. That's not really news.
2. I'm not sure how many of their current 13 are included in that number but their profile also says they are expecting 25 more... Doesn't mean it's based on a concrete deal but it's something to start from.
3. On June 19th United placed a FIRM order for 20 E175s and optioned 19 more. The deliveries for THIS ORDER are slated to start 2nd quarter of 2020. (aka 1Jan2020). However,....
4. As of June 30th Embraer reported 38 FIRM OUTSTANDING E175s owed to United Airlines.
Soooo
Who can staff them?
Who can upgrade or hire enough CAPTAINS.
Hiring 600 pilots doesn't mean much if 589 of them have zero 121 time....
Come on over we would love to have you.
09-20-2019, 06:06 AM
#3008
Moderator
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Position: Reserve
Posts: 650
So this is a good one from the OO forum.
"They are also saving ERJ spots in January after the holidays for Compass pilots....
Compass is not even trying to find replacement flying at this time so I hope the Compass pilots take advantage of the opportunity. It could be they are not trying because they already have something lined up but cannot announce it, but I would not rely on that theory."
"They are also saving ERJ spots in January after the holidays for Compass pilots....
Compass is not even trying to find replacement flying at this time so I hope the Compass pilots take advantage of the opportunity. It could be they are not trying because they already have something lined up but cannot announce it, but I would not rely on that theory."
I saw that. Just confirms how out of touch some people are.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
09-20-2019, 07:26 AM
#3009
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 531
*boarding commute on OO plane*
OO FO in jetway: “heading to work?”
Me: “yup Compass in LAX”
OO FO: “haha at least not for long!”
What am I supposed to say to that lol
OO FO in jetway: “heading to work?”
Me: “yup Compass in LAX”
OO FO: “haha at least not for long!”
What am I supposed to say to that lol
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
