TruNorth

I mean, unless you have to decide on actually putting in your resignation in the next two weeks does it really matter?

Get your apps out there and start working on all the little steps to go to the next place, whether that's an LCC, OO, 9E, G7 or whatever. If whatever comes out looks good, you can always pull down your app or delay/cancel an interview or even a class date if you choose.

Honestly, even if you have an interview I'd do it regardless. Never hurts to have options or at least live interview practice.

Excargodog

This is the regionals. Somebody is being whipsawed.

Either Compass and some other company are being played against each other and the issue is not entirely decided or Compass management is keeping the drama going
to distract us from the fact that the two year extension to the pilot contract is almost up.

Case one would have whatever major is involved letting Compass and whoever currently has the flying (Mesa would be my guess since they also have contracts expiring) undercut one another to the maximum extent possible and eventually go with the deal most advantageous to that major.

Case two would have Compass keep up the drama to the point where the pilot group will happily sign an extension of the current terms just to keep our jobs, not noticing in the prices that we are now lagging behind several other pilot groups.

Now I’m not psychic. I suppose it’s possible for some third option, like we split in two and those whose flying is being phased out leave Compass to become startup cadre for Moxy, but I doubt it.

In the meantime, getting apps out is still good practice. And who knows, you might get lucky and get a nibble from someplace you really would like to spend your life. And the signup bonuses - especially if you are DEC or Near-DEC eligible, are getting mighty tempting. And class dates for those can be chosen conveniently far out that you can always cancel out if TSH actually does strike gold somehow.

Two can play this whipsaw game.

MrToomz

Just remember, everyone is only asking for a couple more weeks of patience... how many YEARS has it taken us to get this far? With potentially decades of flying left ahead for us?

A couple weeks isn't asking much in the long game. Eyes on the prize, folks!

Excargodog

Putting apps out IS playing the long game. They’ll take more than a few weeks to become any sort of firm commitment. Once you see the other cards on the table you can THEN decide if you want to bet or not.

Besides, putting out apps is good practice. Everybody ought to be doing it anyway, as soon as you meet minimums for a career destination you’d REALLY like to have.

week

Funny you say this. I happen to be a low time CA, but I’m buying a bit more time to see what will happen here. I spent an eternity here as an FO so I could get some PIC time out of compass, that’s why I came here in the first place. So I’m not going to shut that door if I don’t have to. If I had 1000 PIC? I’d be leaving this place for any LCC without hesitation. I’m tired of the regional game and QOL

Also, depends on the LCC.

Slowhawk

I’ll throw a theory into the mix for fun

UA wants to consolidate regionals. Mesa contract is ending very soon. Their contract is 30 175s and 20CRJ700s.

UA has 20 firm 175 orders to replace the CRJ700s, which will either disappear or become 550s. The 30 E175’s go to Expressjet, the carrier that UA wants to grow, especially on the 175 side. Expressjet can’t staff that.

ExpressJet (or whatever shell company) acquires compass.


As for our AA stuff, I have no idea. 2023

s3cLyfe

Most likely this with a twist. Bought but not merged with XJT. And if bought, the AA contact ends early...which could force the merger now that I say it out loud. Otherwise a UAX cpa with dal/ua tail swap, but still down 10 planes as a whole.

Excargodog

UA still has that provision in their FA contract giving any wholly owned regional FAs mainline wages so it’ll still have to go through their shell company, Mana, if any of those things were ever to happen. That’s why UAL doesn’t have any wholly owneds.

Oh, and Mesa operates 60 175s for UA, not 30.

s3cLyfe

From TSH to Mana Air. All I know is that if Mesa bought us I’d quit.

Slowhawk

This place is great but if we furlough/downgrade at all, or end up with reserves flying 8 hours a month and frozen hiring/upgrades (cough cough 2017), I’m gone too.

Alternative, happier theory:
We are getting 30 UA jets at 4 a month starting October, new bases, and stay Compass. UA just doesn’t want CPZ to let the cat out of the bag yet and cause panic at the regional that’s losing jets