Compass Updates 2: Revenge of the Sit
#1986
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Pilots, if you're sick please call out. Been going through a lot of sani wipes and hand sanitizer recently trying not to get sick from them too.
#1987
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So I guess now the question is how far do you really want escalate the situation? Often we don't find out that they are sick until later and they most likely will not want you to say anything. Many will downplay their sickness and say they're alright. Or can't afford to lose their job... Etc.
Obviously you can't be spineless out there, if you are uncomfortable you shouldn't block out, but I guess I'm asking where you draw the line, because the FAs have forced you to draw it for them by showing up to work sick...
Thoughts?
#1988
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BLS I seriously wonder the same thing. I’ve had conversations about it with other pilots as well, and believe it really puts us between a rock and a hard place.
I don’t care if an FA has some sniffles and wants to continue, but I’ve seen some (and Pilots as well) who really shouldn’t be at work. I don’t want to catch it, and I’m sure passengers don’t either.
I’ve encouraged some to call out before, and 1 or 2 have. Most fear being fired over it, which is a ridiculous scare tactic.
I don’t care if an FA has some sniffles and wants to continue, but I’ve seen some (and Pilots as well) who really shouldn’t be at work. I don’t want to catch it, and I’m sure passengers don’t either.
I’ve encouraged some to call out before, and 1 or 2 have. Most fear being fired over it, which is a ridiculous scare tactic.
#1989
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+1. How do you guys handle a sick FA? Some of you might remember the big issue in-flight management had with pilots calling in sick for their FAs back in 2015-16. The pilots were told by the CP office to stop and call them instead if they had a problem, not crew scheduling because we are not in the chain of command to call in sick for them.. Most had big problems with that.. Destination safety anyone? Anyway.
So I guess now the question is how far do you really want escalate the situation? Often we don't find out that they are sick until later and they most likely will not want you to say anything. Many will downplay their sickness and say they're alright. Or can't afford to lose their job... Etc.
Obviously you can't be spineless out there, if you are uncomfortable you shouldn't block out, but I guess I'm asking where you draw the line, because the FAs have forced you to draw it for them by showing up to work sick...
Thoughts?
So I guess now the question is how far do you really want escalate the situation? Often we don't find out that they are sick until later and they most likely will not want you to say anything. Many will downplay their sickness and say they're alright. Or can't afford to lose their job... Etc.
Obviously you can't be spineless out there, if you are uncomfortable you shouldn't block out, but I guess I'm asking where you draw the line, because the FAs have forced you to draw it for them by showing up to work sick...
Thoughts?
If I was in a hypothetical scenario where I'd have a sick FA who doesn't want to call in sick, I'd want to have a conversation with them about that and find out what's going on. I'd imagine over the course of the conversation I'd be able to first evaluate the scenario, make up my own mind about their fitness for duty, and then be able to convince them to my way of thinking if I needed to (usually by trying to lead them down the path of "well, in the event of a rapid depressurization, will you be able to perform your job duties properly, or assist in the event of an evacuation?").
#1990
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Regardless of whether or not an FAA actually calls out sick, if their decision to do so is influenced by fear of being fired I would consider writing an ASAP. That would at least get the FAA's eyes on it.
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