Compass Updates 2: Revenge of the Sit
07-19-2018, 07:31 AM
#151
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Awesome thanks. Ya idk if there's an old sim instructor or a picky check airmen but I'm seeing some CAs insist on using LOC/GS to intercept so it's coming from somewhere.
07-19-2018, 07:32 AM
#152
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For guys interested in United this is an interesting listen
07-19-2018, 08:24 AM
#153
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Does anyone have a reference to if and when we need to use LOC/GS mode to intercept the final instead of LNAV. I've seen an uptick of people blowing through final, close to full dot deflection, using LOC/GS. I've asked some people and they've told me that's what you're supposed to do and I'm not smart enough to know if that's true or not. Either way, please for the love of god and the health of my anUs, if you're going to intercept with LOC/GS at least lead the turn with heading. The amount of times I've seen a compass pilot almost kiss tips with another plane at SFO is too damn high. So please, if there's a procedure that says technically that's right let me know so I can ask it to be changed.
07-19-2018, 08:33 AM
#154
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There is nowhere that says you have to intercept LOC/GS in green needles. If you are flying a LOC/ILS you can be in green needles pure and simple. Furthermore, we should not be insisting that our fellow pilots fly a certain technique on the line. With regards to "blowing through final" you are either flying too fast or it was a crappy vector.
07-19-2018, 10:54 AM
#155
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This would be a better scenario then the current situation for the minority, myself included.
07-19-2018, 11:05 AM
#156
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Supposedly there's been some DL big wig at building C this week visiting maintenance. That can't be good news for contract extensions
07-19-2018, 11:12 AM
#158
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
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Does anyone have a reference to if and when we need to use LOC/GS mode to intercept the final instead of LNAV. I've seen an uptick of people blowing through final, close to full dot deflection, using LOC/GS. I've asked some people and they've told me that's what you're supposed to do and I'm not smart enough to know if that's true or not. Either way, please for the love of god and the health of my anUs, if you're going to intercept with LOC/GS at least lead the turn with heading. The amount of times I've seen a compass pilot almost kiss tips with another plane at SFO is too damn high. So please, if there's a procedure that says technically that's right let me know so I can ask it to be changed.
07-19-2018, 11:31 AM
#159
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Curious... are you allowed to hand fly to intercept the LOC if the autopilot is going to fly through it? On the CRJ, the localizer can get stupid deflected sometimes if we're approaching at much more than a two-degree thirty-degree intercept. We generally kick George to the jumpseat once he starts doing something stupid, and we'll hand fly to (re-)intercept the course from there.
07-19-2018, 12:43 PM
#160
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Does anyone have a reference to if and when we need to use LOC/GS mode to intercept the final instead of LNAV. I've seen an uptick of people blowing through final, close to full dot deflection, using LOC/GS. I've asked some people and they've told me that's what you're supposed to do and I'm not smart enough to know if that's true or not. Either way, please for the love of god and the health of my anUs, if you're going to intercept with LOC/GS at least lead the turn with heading. The amount of times I've seen a compass pilot almost kiss tips with another plane at SFO is too damn high. So please, if there's a procedure that says technically that's right let me know so I can ask it to be changed.
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