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Old 07-18-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nimbleNavigator
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LMAO 😂

Can someone please ask on the next call why our planes are falling apart at all the seams? ...when est’g SJC/PHX, and giving away the 170s/MSP was supposed to “streamline our operation”. What a joke this clown show mgmt team is. Our MX bases are so short they can’t fix any cabin items on RONs and I bet that Keystone MX in SLC just paid for his retirement with all the business we’ve been throwing at them.
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Old 07-18-2018, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust
LMAO 😂

Can someone please ask on the next call why our planes are falling apart at all the seems? ...when SJC/PHX, and giving away the 170s/MSP was supposed to “streamline the operation”. What a joke this clown show mgmt team is. Our MX bases are so short they can’t fix any cabin items on RONs and I bet that Keystone MX in SLC just paid for his retirement with all the business we’ve been throwing at them.
It's pretty much asked everytime and they have a vague answer everytime. Think last time they said MX is understaffed, I'm guessing most likely we don't pay enough. But always remember Delta and American "love us".
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Old 07-18-2018, 03:16 PM
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But always remember Delta and American "love us".
Compass might have started as a NWA company but I’ll start the rumor now: DL will cancel us and TSH will give the remainder to AA for $0 and Compass will become an AAL company, used (again) to strong-arm the other three into concessions.
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Old 07-18-2018, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust
LMAO 😂

Can someone please ask on the next call why our planes are falling apart at all the seams? ...when est’g SJC/PHX, and giving away the 170s/MSP was supposed to “streamline our operation”. What a joke this clown show mgmt team is. Our MX bases are so short they can’t fix any cabin items on RONs and I bet that Keystone MX in SLC just paid for his retirement with all the business we’ve been throwing at them.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust
LMAO 😂

Can someone please ask on the next call why our planes are falling apart at all the seams? ...when est’g SJC/PHX, and giving away the 170s/MSP was supposed to “streamline our operation”. What a joke this clown show mgmt team is. Our MX bases are so short they can’t fix any cabin items on RONs and I bet that Keystone MX in SLC just paid for his retirement with all the business we’ve been throwing at them.

Well, when you have three mechanics show up for an inop PTT switch and one goes to the engine pages on the MFD, one raids the snack basket, and the third flirts with the FAs- I’m not sure how they ever have time to fix anything... yeah, that happened.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by poorflyer
It's pretty much asked everytime and they have a vague answer everytime. Think last time they said MX is understaffed, I'm guessing most likely we don't pay enough. But always remember Delta and American "love us".
Brand new mechanics right out of A&P school coupled with Green supervisors at the MX bases and pooled parts located in MEM leads to a lot of things getting the ever lasting DMI stickers. Having almost 10 lines of flying through SLC doesn't help the folks in MSP route planes into a MX base for work either. At least the 20 AA birds almost all touch LAX at least once every 24 hours.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:45 PM
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Does anyone have a reference to if and when we need to use LOC/GS mode to intercept the final instead of LNAV. I've seen an uptick of people blowing through final, close to full dot deflection, using LOC/GS. I've asked some people and they've told me that's what you're supposed to do and I'm not smart enough to know if that's true or not. Either way, please for the love of god and the health of my anUs, if you're going to intercept with LOC/GS at least lead the turn with heading. The amount of times I've seen a compass pilot almost kiss tips with another plane at SFO is too damn high. So please, if there's a procedure that says technically that's right let me know so I can ask it to be changed.
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by poorflyer
Does anyone have a reference to if and when we need to use LOC/GS mode to intercept the final instead of LNAV. I've seen an uptick of people blowing through final, close to full dot deflection, using LOC/GS. I've asked some people and they've told me that's what you're supposed to do and I'm not smart enough to know if that's true or not. Either way, please for the love of god and the health of my anUs, if you're going to intercept with LOC/GS at least lead the turn with heading. The amount of times I've seen a compass pilot almost kiss tips with another plane at SFO is too damn high. So please, if there's a procedure that says technically that's right let me know so I can ask it to be changed.
GPS can substitute for LOC outside FAF. That's crazy about SFO, I use SFO as a example of why it can really be important to consider a pink needle intercept to new FOs.

Authorized under OPSS B034, terminal area begins inside 30mi and ends at FAF.
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
GPS can substitute for LOC outside FAF. That's crazy about SFO, I use SFO as a example of why it can really be important to consider a pink needle intercept to new FOs.

Authorized under OPSS B034, terminal area begins inside 30mi and ends at FAF.
Exactly. The only requirement for being in LOC/GS is inside the FAF. I preach it to FOs even going into LAX because I've even had controllers there ask me about it sometimes if we're intercepting at a good rate and the FO picked LOC/GS. In SFO I'd probably go so far as to tell them to use NAV for the intercept for a while until established, then swap over to LOC/GS when convenient. You're PIC, so you're allowed to do it (especially if it's in the interest of safety). Just my two cents.
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FlytheSky
Exactly. The only requirement for being in LOC/GS is inside the FAF. I preach it to FOs even going into LAX because I've even had controllers there ask me about it sometimes if we're intercepting at a good rate and the FO picked LOC/GS. In SFO I'd probably go so far as to tell them to use NAV for the intercept for a while until established, then swap over to LOC/GS when convenient. You're PIC, so you're allowed to do it (especially if it's in the interest of safety). Just my two cents.



^^^^
I can admit I did this a time or two, Ive watched a few CA's do it also. Its not pretty in either case.

IMO I think the LNAV/FPA double capture by around the 4miles/FAF works awesome. Especially if your gonna capture the course beyond a conservative 15 degree intercept.
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