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Old 12-01-2018, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Taco280AI
I don't even need to move up anymore!! According to an email I got, I have millions of dollars waiting for me in a Nigerian bank, just need to collect it then I'm sitting pretty... good luck to you all.
Some people have all the luck! All I got was a vacation at an all inclusive resort worth $10,000! All I had to pay was $50 with my credit card.
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Old 12-01-2018, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
I heard that when I was in training and more so during OE. It seems like it's easy to over think.. I also like how it's a little more efficient to get off the gate and start taxiing on one, even if you burn two as soon as you start moving.

Anybody know how many we are losing to the DAL December 10th class? I know of 3 people, but I suspect it's more
Yep. Works even with a short taxi, you can start 2 at the top of the box, and be warm up complete by the time you hit 25R at Fox
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Old 12-01-2018, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Taco280AI
I don't even need to move up anymore!! According to an email I got, I have millions of dollars waiting for me in a Nigerian bank, just need to collect it then I'm sitting pretty... good luck to you all.
You're lucky, I got a call from the IRS saying I owe $2000 and I have to pay them in Best Buy gift cards or I'm going to jail!
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by poorflyer
You're lucky, I got a call from the IRS saying I owe $2000 and I have to pay them in Best Buy gift cards or I'm going to jail!
Check your junk mail. Lots of people getting good news there lately
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Old 12-01-2018, 04:50 PM
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At the regional level, there’s no reason to taxi single-engine. You don’t get profit sharing for your savings and your company doesn’t buy the fuel; the company that contracted out your job does. I’ve only had a handful of situations that warranted it...taxiing from the box to 25R wasn’t one of them. Using 50% THR to get going and burning the APU negates any of that fuel savings on the 175, unless it’s an extended taxi time. Nothing’s more painful to watch than a 175 at 40% N1 trying to accelerate. Also, a cold engine burns more fuel on TO.
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Old 12-01-2018, 05:19 PM
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Ya but the Delta guy in the back will hear me start number 2 right before takeoff and after the flight will get me a job. That's how it works right?
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Old 12-02-2018, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust
At the regional level, there’s no reason to taxi single-engine. You don’t get profit sharing for your savings and your company doesn’t buy the fuel; the company that contracted out your job does. I’ve only had a handful of situations that warranted it...taxiing from the box to 25R wasn’t one of them. Using 50% THR to get going and burning the APU negates any of that fuel savings on the 175, unless it’s an extended taxi time. Nothing’s more painful to watch than a 175 at 40% N1 trying to accelerate. Also, a cold engine burns more fuel on TO.
As a former CPZ pilot, I beg to differ. Sometimes the circumstances warrant SE taxi. It comes down to your level of professionalism. I used SE taxi procedures as a CA and FO. It's all about doing the best job that you can for your Company. When I was at CPZ, Delta had metrics for if we used SE taxi or not. Delta or American are buying your fuel and airplane. You should adhere to their fuel policies as much as practicable. You are correct that you do not get any reward for following their fuel policy. But that is where your professionalism comes into play. At the Majors, we're looking for professionals.
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Old 12-02-2018, 07:29 AM
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The economic benefits are certainly worth single-engine taxiing, not to mention the environmental benefits of not burning 2 engines as you’re sitting on Bravo in Seattle with 15 planes in line for takeoff ahead of you. There is so much waste system wide in the airlines, not just with fuel, so even 100lbs of fuel saved really adds up if everyone pitches in. If you think that fuel savings from taxiing single-engine in your regional jet is negligible, you’re thinking is too narrow and need to consider the bigger picture of the whole industry saving 100lbs per taxi.

I will say that it would be way more beneficial to single-engine taxi at Compass if we had an easier cross-bleed start policy that didn’t require us to park the plane and follow a checklist, similar to Skywest. As we normally do it here with one engine and the APU burning, we’re really only saving about 300lbs an hour at most, as opposed to roughly 550lbs an hour with just one engine and no APU.
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
At the Majors, we're looking for profit sharing.
Fixed it for you.
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Old 12-02-2018, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Fixed it for you.
Nope! If you want the profit sharing, you need to be a professional.
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