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Old 04-04-2018, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SnowmanKiller

Also, I understand Compass doesn't own their planes and the contract ends in 2020. If the upgrade is 2-3 years how much of a risk am I running by coming to Compass should they accept me? Could I be looking for a new regional in 2 years?

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The million dollar question no one can answer. Plenty of rumors all over but we won't know till the day comes. We're trying to push management to tell us more but unfortunately it's a private company and has no responsibility to relay their future plans. That's just the life of regional airlines. It's the Wild West and the mainline leaders pull our strings so we fight each other.
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Originally Posted by SnowmanKiller
Might be off topic but for interviews is there any benefit to meeting with recruiters at a job fair compared to directly scheduling an interview?

There is a job fair in about a month I'm looking at in Vegas with one or two companies I'd be interested in (Compass being one of them). I am not sure if one month is enough time to prepare for the interview though.

Am I being too cautious if I don't go to the job fair and spend another few weeks or a month preparing?

Also, I understand Compass doesn't own their planes and the contract ends in 2020. If the upgrade is 2-3 years how much of a risk am I running by coming to Compass should they accept me? Could I be looking for a new regional in 2 years?

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God willing, you will either be getting your golden 1000TPIC in 2 years or being an FO for Spirit or Frontier and looking at getting your TPIC there in a few more years for three times the money.

At a minimum in two years you'll have 1300 hrs of TSIC and a type rating you don't have now which will make you a more valuable commodity than you are now and the majors will still be retiring people at a rate not previously seen in your lifetime and still increasing, heading for the peak retirement period in 2022-23.

That's no lead pipe cinch of course, but it's the best opportunity nonmilitary-trained guys have had to get to the majors since .... well, ever.

Just interview. Call the recruiting office wherever you want to go and schedule it. If not with Compass then with whoever the heck will give you an interview. If they give you an interview they are looking to hire you.

If you have choices, go to the place you can actually live in base, or at least easily commute to base. And go to someplace that then will actually FLY you, not leave you on reserve somewhere you'll be struggling to make consolidation time on that new rating.

And wherever you go, find someplace that the training system isn't FUBAR, which a lot of them seem to be right now. Don't waste the next month dithering or the next six months trying to get through a screwed up training department. You have an opportunity many of your predecessors only dreamed about. Don't waste it.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by poorflyer
The million dollar question no one can answer. Plenty of rumors all over but we won't know till the day comes. We're trying to push management to tell us more but unfortunately it's a private company and has no responsibility to relay their future plans. That's just the life of regional airlines. It's the Wild West and the mainline leaders pull our strings so we fight each other.
Well said po'flyer
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:39 AM
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God willing, you will either be getting your golden 1000TPIC in 2 years or being an FO for Spirit or Frontier and looking at getting your TPIC there in a few more years for three times the money.

At a minimum in two years you'll have 1300 hrs of TSIC and a type rating you don't have now which will make you a more valuable commodity than you are now and the majors will still be retiring people at a rate not previously seen in your lifetime and still increasing, heading for the peak retirement period in 2022-23.

That's no lead pipe cinch of course, but it's the best opportunity nonmilitary-trained guys have had to get to the majors since .... well, ever.

Just interview. Call the recruiting office wherever you want to go and schedule it. If not with Compass then with whoever the heck will give you an interview. If they give you an interview they are looking to hire you.

If you have choices, go to the place you can actually live in base, or at least easily commute to base. And go to someplace that then will actually FLY you, not leave you on reserve somewhere you'll be struggling to make consolidation time on that new rating.

And wherever you go, find someplace that the training system isn't FUBAR, which a lot of them seem to be right now. Don't waste the next month dithering or the next six months trying to get through a screwed up training department. You have an opportunity many of your predecessors only dreamed about. Don't waste it.
I'm Mil getting out with about 800 hours heavy MEL time. In terms of not messed up training department how is Compass? Horizon? What regionals have GOOD training departments and good timelines to get out flying metal and not twiddling thumbs?
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Old 04-04-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by poorflyer
The million dollar question no one can answer. Plenty of rumors all over but we won't know till the day comes. We're trying to push management to tell us more but unfortunately it's a private company and has no responsibility to relay their future plans. That's just the life of regional airlines. It's the Wild West and the mainline leaders pull our strings so we fight each other.
Well, there is the fact of the new crew badges saying "Property of Delta AIRLINES" on the back (FO I am flying with has a new one) instead of "Property of Compass Airlines". I have no idea of what to read into that but it has to mean something. My personal opinion? I think staffing levels are intentionally being kept low preparing for an early return of the Eagle airplanes to Envoy with Compass being acquired by Delta and folded into the Endeavor certificate as a turn key 175 program. Again, just conjecture on my part but what I can tell you as someone who has spent 25 years in the 121 industry is that the only thing constant is change. Something is afoot at the Circle-K. Only time will tell if it will benefit us or hurt us. Enjoy the ride.
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:30 AM
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As much as I'd like to believe, I have a feeling it's just a stack of cards they found/borrowed in building C to make some badges. I'd be interesting to know if Endevour badges have the same thing.
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As much as I'd like to believe, I have a feeling it's just a stack of cards they found/borrowed in building C to make some badges. I'd be interesting to know if Endevour badges have the same thing.
My buddy sent me a pic of the back of his Endeavor one and it is the same as what our new id’s look like. Prolly just like u said though, they ran out and knowing Compass they were like these will work.
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Student of mine just got hired. Yes, the back of his ID says it belongs to Delta. Got a quick ATP-CPT course and is done with that, and he is currently doing home study. Headquarters told him that they are going to hire classes of 6-8/week for the next 10 weeks. Says there are very few FO's available system wide. CD9
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Originally Posted by TillerThriller
My buddy sent me a pic of the back of his Endeavor one and it is the same as what our new id’s look like. Prolly just like u said though, they ran out and knowing Compass they were like these will work.
Plausible but honestly, do you think delta would approve? As protective of their brand as they are? The fact that we also fly for AA. I think they would go bananas. I also think that some of you are missing the point that a crew badge is a FAA approved document. An airline just cant make changes to it without CMO approval but these days at Compass who knows. I would ask about it in the AM during the call but I'll be airborne. I hope indeed someone does ask but then again I already know the answer. B.G. " I was unaware and I will look into it." LOL.
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The fact that we are excited to be acquired by Delta and merged with 9E (losing 20 AA birds in the process) says miles about TSH and managements decisions the past few years.
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