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Old 06-01-2017, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by veewan
Well I don't think the union was planning to send anything out. It happened just about the time the hiring freeze was about to hit. One or two guys at least that I've heard of, had the time and the seniority to hold Captain. They had a bid in and were bypassed due to how either the computer or someone processed it.

They put a grievance in and now they wait. From the right seat. The thing is they are too junior to hold CA now that everyone in the freeze has their time. Might be part of why it's not talked about too much. Even if they get these people into the left seat or retro pay, it'll upset folks senior to them depending on how it's handled.
that is entirely different than being awarded then held back intentionally.
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
What my friend was trying to say is that your airline has a lot of lifers. Sorry for the confusion. Carry on...
It is my understanding that FO's in LA at Compass bidding 70% are still on reserve is this true?
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
1. You have to work really hard to get fired here. We're talking silly hard. I doubt anyone has been fired for "just" missing their commute to many times.
2. We upgrade about 1% of the list every month. That's pretty good (right about what you guys are doing).
3. Just really isn't happening. It has for short spurts. If it did, I would be pay protected. Fly my cushy senior FO schedule for captain pay? Sign me up.
4. We grow every month. We fly for 4 major carriers. If we lose planes for one carrier, we can usually find flying for them somewhere else. That's what happens when you OWN your airplanes.
That formula is probably the biggest reason Skywest does so well. That keeps debt off their major partners books
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
If you think that being fired for missing your commute too often is not a negative, I don't know what to tell you.
If you think that 40 upgrades a month is "movement" at a 4500 pilot airline, I don't know what to tell you.
If you think it's fine that they can withhold your upgrade for right seat staffing in your category and award it somebody junior to you, I don't know what to tell you.
If you think Skywest Inc hasn't lost planes "in this environment" that's cause they take them away from Expressjet.
Upgrade isn't everything... some move on without it 😊
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Work2much
Why were these people allegedly not awarded captain? Were they awarded but didn't pass training? Why ask ALPA when you could tell us right now if it's not a secret?
Because of a glitch in Flica. They kept their bid in but for some reason it didn't see their 1000+ SIC.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
Because the management of Skywest are just total angels.
Yeah, they're treating Expressjet pilots just great. which is why 40% of them have left for compass!
What would have happened to Express Jet had SkyWest not bought them? Does anyone else remember that they were Continental Express, they became an independent airline then had financial troubles. That's how I remember it but maybe I missed the full version. So SkyWest buying Express Jet kept pilots employed.

Right now they also have the United CPP. Sounds like terrible treatment. Oh and that awful conflict bidding they have, who would want to get paid for trips they don't have to fly that touch vacation.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Work2much
Breaking news: Whatever you hear isn't always true. SkyWest isn't hiring 100 per month nor are they upgrading 75 per month. Just because you haven't heard of something happening doesn't mean it has or does happen. Can't really come up with your alternative facts and treat them like fact unless you're...well, you know who.
Who do you work for? If you're a Compass pilot I suggest you apply to SkyWest. You obviously have a love affair with them.
Well we did hire over 100 for 6 to 8 months. The upgrade number is definitely inflated. I don't think we ever hit 75 in a month. I think the biggest month was a little over 60. Probably averaging 40 or 50 before the summer slow down hit.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:46 AM
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Now SkyWest has officially announced opening a BOI and SAN base, E175 only.
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:06 AM
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SkyWest net pilots for May was +47. They lost 48 in MAY.. Compass is definitely a lot smaller. So if they were to get even 10 airplanes growth at would be like SkyWest getting 40... But the West Coast is ablut to get mkre Jr . Because of SAN/BOI opening up..
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Old 06-01-2017, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
Because the management of Skywest are just total angels.
Yeah, they're treating Expressjet pilots just great. which is why 40% of them have left for compass!






I have not, nor will I ever utter anything regarding any airline management being even remotely angelic.
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