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Old 10-15-2017, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
We went from 351 pilots to 280 in the last 12 months.
Many aren't putting up with it.
Unfortunately, a lot of people remember not too long ago when this used to be a cool place. Some believe it's worth fighting for to get that back. It's a almost a no-brainer for new hires, but harder for folks with 3-5 years seniority.
We are at the point now, we won't survive unless something drastic happens. It might be worth hanging around to see what the company proposes to get people to stay and come.
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
We went from 351 pilots to 280 in the last 12 months.
Many aren't putting up with it.
Unfortunately, a lot of people remember not too long ago when this used to be a cool place. Some believe it's worth fighting for to get that back. It's a almost a no-brainer for new hires, but harder for folks with 3-5 years seniority.
I could see us getting down to 250ish. Between the D8 Capt's getting displaced to the right seat and the FO's that came for a quick upgrade that never happened and are coming up on their year, it wouldn't surprise me if we lost another 30 guys.
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
We are at the point now, we won't survive unless something drastic happens. It might be worth hanging around to see what the company proposes to get people to stay and come.
At least we have a new crew room in IAD.... that is NO WHERE NEAR our operations.
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
At least we have a new crew room in IAD.... that is NO WHERE NEAR our operations.
BUT, it will have a new refrigerator and microwave at some point in the future.

If you need a refrigerator or microwave next week, you will be participating in the new C5 weight loss and exercise program by walking to the other terminal.
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Old 10-15-2017, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dead meat
I could see us getting down to 250ish. Between the D8 Capt's getting displaced to the right seat and the FO's that came for a quick upgrade that never happened and are coming up on their year, it wouldn't surprise me if we lost another 30 guys.
Anyone still here for a quick upgrade that hasn't upgraded has left. My class is under 50% and we have to repay the bonus if we leave.

I am curious what the minimum aircraft/crews is to stay viable as a company. 7 pilots per plane would put us at 280 pilots with 40 jets (once the transition is over).

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Old 10-15-2017, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
Anyone still here for a quick upgrade that hasn't upgraded has left. My class is under 50% and we have to repay the bonus if we leave.

I am curious what the minimum aircraft/crews is to stay viable as a company. 7 pilots per plane would put us at 280 pilots with 40 jets (once the transition is over).
Isn't it 39 jets now? I thought one of the 145s already timed out.
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
Anyone still here for a quick upgrade that hasn't upgraded has left. My class is under 50% and we have to repay the bonus if we leave.

I am curious what the minimum aircraft/crews is to stay viable as a company. 7 pilots per plane would put us at 280 pilots with 40 jets (once the transition is over).

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I'd be interested to see what happens in Jan/Feb.

As it stands right now with transitioning pilots I think we have enough to "C5 staff" the jets on property, and they don't plan to "ramp up" deliveries until after the transition. This translates into the company not giving a **** if pilots leave right now.

Why pay the employees more when they can afford to lose a few?
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Saucy Dingo
Isn't it 39 jets now? I thought one of the 145s already timed out.
That’s BS. Don’t let them tell you one of the newest XR’s “timed out” when every other older one is still flying. EV is flying 145’s 7 years older then that airframe.
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PosRateGearUp
I'd be interested to see what happens in Jan/Feb.

As it stands right now with transitioning pilots I think we have enough to "C5 staff" the jets on property, and they don't plan to "ramp up" deliveries until after the transition. This translates into the company not giving a **** if pilots leave right now.

Why pay the employees more when they can afford to lose a few?
I don't know how many are complaining about money. It's all QOL complaints here.

I feel the company is behind the power curve. Why did we stop taking more hours? How many Dash CA downgrades are going to stay? How many people are leaving after staying one year? If the company is getting enough qualified applicants, why do they constantly try to enlist the pilots in their PR campaign? How many CAs are coming up on 1000 hrs PIC?

It's reasonable for the company to stock up on pilots for a rainy day. We will finally have those extras with the transition, but if it's spent foolishly there will be problems the first time we have an event like last winter.

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Old 10-15-2017, 09:52 AM
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It's also about money.
I believe we are the only regional left not offering a retention bonus.
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