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Old 04-13-2017, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
Let's change this up a bit.

What are some facts on why someone should come here now vs going to Endeavor, PSA, PDT, or Envoy?


You're going to get swole AF from hefting your chart case around?
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:16 AM
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Lol. You guys will move up the seniority list in no time by the way you descride this place.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeC5
Several factors.
For someone like me, it was better when we started and we are hoping it gets better in the future. Two years buys you a lot of seniority here at the moment, so leaving would be stupid. And of course many of us are trying leave. Just not to other regionals.
Others are trying to leave but haven't finished training, so they can't, because that looks bad on PRIA. Others owe money from the sign on bonus and might be waiting until one year is up.

As far as "Would you rather have the best contract and be shut down or accept minor inconveniences in exchange for a future?"....
Please. How about an average contract???? That would be a nice start. No one is asking for $150,000 and 18 days off. People want to not be extended 14 times a year. People want a duty rig so they are actually paid for a seven hour airport sit.

I'm tired of people at this airline thinking if you get a good contract you'll suddenly end up as Comair. It just shows ignorance.
Sadly, I think both of these things will happen and are happening. A lot of people came to C5 from other 121 carriers. Although they knew C5 wasn't perfect (what regional is??), I think they are really surprised at how "mom and pop" it is. It doesn't appear to most us that have been here less than a year that much is being done to change that. I'm definitely not a "snowflake" (although I'm sure I will be called one for what I am saying), I just wish management and the union communicated with the pilot group better.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cirrusly
Lol. You guys will move up the seniority list in no time by the way you descride this place.
So we should lie to people?
I gots me some integrity, chief.
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Old 04-13-2017, 11:28 AM
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Easy Mike, stress kills
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Old 04-13-2017, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MitsubishiPilot
If you guys don't like it, leave. I am tired of people complaining. Would you rather have the best contract and be shut down or accept minor inconveniences in exchange for a future? This is the regionals, not Legacy Warmup Airline; cheapest bidder wins.

There are other things you can do to improve your QoL besides complain on an internet board. Go ask your union what is being done to improve your grievances. Better yet, go volunteer so you can make a difference.
Bro loosen your pants a bit, if I or anyone else feel that we would not recommend a company now that's purely our opinion, where do you see complaints in that? And yes someone asked for our opinion on the company, if you wanna take that as us complaining then have at it my friend. The truth is the truth.

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Old 04-13-2017, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
Let's change this up a bit.

What are some facts on why someone should come here now vs going to Endeavor, PSA, PDT, or Envoy?
Give us your opinion on this SKNpilot and Mitsubishipilot? What would you HONESTLY say to someone asking this question who have never been in the 121 world?
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Old 04-13-2017, 01:08 PM
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I came to this joint because I could drive to a base. I was under the impression all regionals were bowls of crap with different smells...
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
Give us your opinion on this SKNpilot and Mitsubishipilot? What would you HONESTLY say to someone asking this question who have never been in the 121 world?
Alright, here is the honest answer:

Negatives:

We don't have the best contract, pay, QoL etc. etc.. Happy? I would like to see improvements, but the issues are minor enough I am willing to put up with it, for a while. The company realizes new-hire numbers are not as planned but it is a multi-faceted issue. When they realize they need to improve these issues, they will change it. Until then, I just point out the obvious when asked and don't complain.

The things we can offer are:

One of the best crew climates - despite the negative issues and morale, C5 is a family. I have been at multiple operations and C5 has been the most welcoming and memorable experiences I have had.

Fast movement- Months on reserve, not years.

Available flying- if you want to work, you can. A lot of people are offering trips for pickup and there is ample open time. You might not get your standardized 11/12 days off a month, but you will get your time to upgrade fast and eventually get out of the regionals.

I'm done now. I have heard all your arguments repetitively and I am tired of the squabbling. Bash or troll me as you please. That is my honest answer.
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Old 04-13-2017, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MitsubishiPilot
Alright, here is the honest answer:

Negatives:

We don't have the best contract, pay, QoL etc. etc.. Happy? I would like to see improvements, but the issues are minor enough I am willing to put up with it, for a while. The company realizes new-hire numbers are not as planned but it is a multi-faceted issue. When they realize they need to improve these issues, they will change it. Until then, I just point out the obvious when asked and don't complain.

The things we can offer are:

One of the best crew climates - despite the negative issues and morale, C5 is a family. I have been at multiple operations and C5 has been the most welcoming and memorable experiences I have had.

Fast movement- Months on reserve, not years.

Available flying- if you want to work, you can. A lot of people are offering trips for pickup and there is ample open time. You might not get your standardized 11/12 days off a month, but you will get your time to upgrade fast and eventually get out of the regionals.

I'm done now. I have heard all your arguments repetitively and I am tired of the squabbling. Bash or troll me as you please. That is my honest answer.
No one is trying to bash you. The thing is we are just being honest to the person that asks what we think. And being honest in the answer we give is not complaining...its just answering a question.
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