Bgood

Yes the check arrives b4 indoc. The bonus has nothing to do with quick upgrade. U get ur bonus then its indoc time.

Eugenelee1987

I was former expressjet and had to get my last 200 hours to upgrade, which i currently am going through. So i have been through XJT training and Commutair DASH and ERJ training. The standards here are lower for both planes, only because XJT made you learn enough to build the plane, and Commutair teaches only what you can manipulate or see from the cockpit. XJT taught too much for initial whereas C5 teaches too little imho.

The dash is tough to fly, stick and rudder skills, but since theres very little advanced equipment it is easy to learn. Jet is easy to fly but tough to learn because of all the automation and protection. If you flew at XJT the training is a joke. Plus all indoc stuff is basically industry standard.


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SKNPilot

I completely disagree with you. All airlines have different standards for training, United or Delta's training would be more advanced than Expressjet, but would you consider expressjet training a joke in comparison to them? Everyone who thought the dash training was a joke doesn't work here. So clearly you studied that's why you're here and the same goes for the ERJ training. CommutAir teaches you every system in the dash8, the instructors are great and I would not call their time as a "joke". The ERJ is new to us, and everyone is still learning it. So buddy hold your "humble opinion" to yourself, or join the training department and make training great again.

Eugenelee1987

My bad. I realized reading over that i did sound condescending and like an ass. It was easier than I expected and commutair doesn't require as high a standard as I hold myself to or what Xjt used to hold their pilots to(I feel like having been through both). This is all very biased since i study my ass off whichever plane I am in because knowing more is better than good enough. Let me rephrase my statement. The training, if you went through xjt's rigorous training back in the day is, is not as difficult ( joke implied less effort required relative to xjt's expectation). Bad choice of words but were geared towards former xjt pilots and level of difficulty. Not towards lack of training at commutair. Just a bit put off towards their opinion of know only what buttons and button logic does and no more. Just one pilots opinion...


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SKNPilot

Buddy, if the company is so bad, why are you here still? Something must be keeping you here. Plus I know JG he's a guy that sees that the company needs help and he helped out. What are you doing to help out? Nothing of course, just run your mouth instead of helping out. I appreciate watching guys like you who thinks indoc was a joke, asking the dumbest GOM questions, yet you want to be direct entry captain. Help out or shut up. Make indoc great again.

SKNPilot

I hold myself above CommutAir's standards and you do too, nothing is wrong with that. All pilots should. But the instructors are doing what they can, some more than others but no ones time is a joke.

Really

Being an outsider and pass rider, do you feel it's safe flying on you guys? Not trying to insult but, reading this thread has me a little worried.

MaxQ

What has you worried?
Read all the previous comments carefully. Pay attention to the authors.

Really

Experience and training. Lots of pieces moving at the same time. United had the same issue. The only difference was experience and the amount of finances they allowed for training.

MaxQ

Lots of experienced people in the company. Some less so.
Read carefully. Some of one persons comments focused on scheduling of training organization and backlog.While frustrating to all involved, it doesn't constitute poor training.
An instructor reading slides doesn't differ much from computer based training.All have additional knowlege beyond the slides.
I have been trained at different airlines on two different aircraft types. Both times the programs emphasized different things about the airplane.
If you are trained at UAL on say the A-320 you would learn things about the aircraft if you went to either DAL or AA. The reverse would also be true.
The bottom line is that all prepare you to fly the line safely in their operation.
C5 is no different.
Also be aware that a person can get themselves worked about about some things and be unable to "reset" their perspective without some introspection.
It happens.