C5 expanding?
12-27-2020, 07:32 PM
#441
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 531
I was at Expressjet in 2019. During ground school we had weekends off and CASS/KCM.
For those who talk about staying at training the whole time and not seeing family: getting home once every week or two is a nice way to get a little soul rest during training. The guys who stayed in the hotel and studied all weekend were usually the ones who knew they would struggle if they didn’t. Or, they were smart but weird.
Your sim schedule will probably have gaps of 3-4 days, sometimes a week between sims. This is a nice time to go home and study.
I had a three hour flight each way (IAH-EWR) but would bring my flash cards and EFB to study. Usually I could cover initial study most of the material for my next sim while in the Jumpseat home, unless I was having a nice conversation with the flight deck crew.
Then while relaxing at home and enjoying my family I’d review the study material once or twice a day for 20-30 minutes. Then study hard on the jump seat home, but I almost always got a non-rev seat.
That was about all the study time I’d need until the night before.
the point is: take care of yourself and your family. Go home if you can with three plus days off, and on a couple weekends too.
however, it was awfully helpful to travel knowing I could ultimately take the Jumpseat if I had to: makes same day flying between hubs all but guaranteed. RIP XJT. I’m still glad I took the offer to go there instead of Commutair. Or Skywest. (*but I definitely would have gone to commutair if it was my only option.)
For those who talk about staying at training the whole time and not seeing family: getting home once every week or two is a nice way to get a little soul rest during training. The guys who stayed in the hotel and studied all weekend were usually the ones who knew they would struggle if they didn’t. Or, they were smart but weird.
Your sim schedule will probably have gaps of 3-4 days, sometimes a week between sims. This is a nice time to go home and study.
I had a three hour flight each way (IAH-EWR) but would bring my flash cards and EFB to study. Usually I could cover initial study most of the material for my next sim while in the Jumpseat home, unless I was having a nice conversation with the flight deck crew.
Then while relaxing at home and enjoying my family I’d review the study material once or twice a day for 20-30 minutes. Then study hard on the jump seat home, but I almost always got a non-rev seat.
That was about all the study time I’d need until the night before.
the point is: take care of yourself and your family. Go home if you can with three plus days off, and on a couple weekends too.
however, it was awfully helpful to travel knowing I could ultimately take the Jumpseat if I had to: makes same day flying between hubs all but guaranteed. RIP XJT. I’m still glad I took the offer to go there instead of Commutair. Or Skywest. (*but I definitely would have gone to commutair if it was my only option.)
12-27-2020, 07:45 PM
#442
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 531
Just a reminder for the young guns:
Go where you can get your 1000 hours of turbine multi PIC the fastest. Upgrade as soon as you can, fly to get PIC as much as legally allowed, and upgrade to check airman when you can. You can do it!
then when hiring starts you will sign up for Emerald coast or something similar, sign up for RST and start studying. Get your application professionally reviewed by a pilot hiring consultant. This will all cost about $1000 but it will be worth it.
you’ll get the invite or two and get hired.
there are going to be plenty of pilots who respond “yeah I’m a check airman and way past 1000 PIC yada yada that doesn’t work. “ yes there are exceptions. But they are exceptions. When hiring starts again it will be very competitive at first but you want to be in the front wave of those 1000-2000 new hires.
it will be worth it. Arguing about pay, contract, and work rules is a lot more fun when you’re at a major airline.
Go where you can get your 1000 hours of turbine multi PIC the fastest. Upgrade as soon as you can, fly to get PIC as much as legally allowed, and upgrade to check airman when you can. You can do it!
then when hiring starts you will sign up for Emerald coast or something similar, sign up for RST and start studying. Get your application professionally reviewed by a pilot hiring consultant. This will all cost about $1000 but it will be worth it.
you’ll get the invite or two and get hired.
there are going to be plenty of pilots who respond “yeah I’m a check airman and way past 1000 PIC yada yada that doesn’t work. “ yes there are exceptions. But they are exceptions. When hiring starts again it will be very competitive at first but you want to be in the front wave of those 1000-2000 new hires.
it will be worth it. Arguing about pay, contract, and work rules is a lot more fun when you’re at a major airline.
12-28-2020, 05:14 AM
#443
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 126
I was at Expressjet in 2019. During ground school we had weekends off and CASS/KCM.
For those who talk about staying at training the whole time and not seeing family: getting home once every week or two is a nice way to get a little soul rest during training. The guys who stayed in the hotel and studied all weekend were usually the ones who knew they would struggle if they didn’t. Or, they were smart but weird.
Your sim schedule will probably have gaps of 3-4 days, sometimes a week between sims. This is a nice time to go home and study.
I had a three hour flight each way (IAH-EWR) but would bring my flash cards and EFB to study. Usually I could cover initial study most of the material for my next sim while in the Jumpseat home, unless I was having a nice conversation with the flight deck crew.
Then while relaxing at home and enjoying my family I’d review the study material once or twice a day for 20-30 minutes. Then study hard on the jump seat home, but I almost always got a non-rev seat.
That was about all the study time I’d need until the night before.
the point is: take care of yourself and your family. Go home if you can with three plus days off, and on a couple weekends too.
however, it was awfully helpful to travel knowing I could ultimately take the Jumpseat if I had to: makes same day flying between hubs all but guaranteed. RIP XJT. I’m still glad I took the offer to go there instead of Commutair. Or Skywest. (*but I definitely would have gone to commutair if it was my only option.)
For those who talk about staying at training the whole time and not seeing family: getting home once every week or two is a nice way to get a little soul rest during training. The guys who stayed in the hotel and studied all weekend were usually the ones who knew they would struggle if they didn’t. Or, they were smart but weird.
Your sim schedule will probably have gaps of 3-4 days, sometimes a week between sims. This is a nice time to go home and study.
I had a three hour flight each way (IAH-EWR) but would bring my flash cards and EFB to study. Usually I could cover initial study most of the material for my next sim while in the Jumpseat home, unless I was having a nice conversation with the flight deck crew.
Then while relaxing at home and enjoying my family I’d review the study material once or twice a day for 20-30 minutes. Then study hard on the jump seat home, but I almost always got a non-rev seat.
That was about all the study time I’d need until the night before.
the point is: take care of yourself and your family. Go home if you can with three plus days off, and on a couple weekends too.
however, it was awfully helpful to travel knowing I could ultimately take the Jumpseat if I had to: makes same day flying between hubs all but guaranteed. RIP XJT. I’m still glad I took the offer to go there instead of Commutair. Or Skywest. (*but I definitely would have gone to commutair if it was my only option.)
12-28-2020, 06:19 AM
#444
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: It's a plane and it's a seat
Posts: 977
Got any wife and kids? That is a game changer. A month away from home as a free bird is a whole lot easier than having alot of responsibilities waiting for ya.
Each company does their cass stuff at a different time. I'm not sure the reasoning is keeping people from going home on weekends. Could just be a cowinkeedink.
Each company does their cass stuff at a different time. I'm not sure the reasoning is keeping people from going home on weekends. Could just be a cowinkeedink.
I took care of the financials while in training. It doesn’t change once you hit the line. Commuting to reserve, working holidays/birthdays.
I agree with all the above posters. If you’re family can’t handle the 2-3 months of training... It’s also true that those who go home more struggle. Witnessed it at the regional level as a LCA and watched my classmates struggle at UA who took weekends off.
12-28-2020, 06:24 AM
#445
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: to the right of left
Posts: 126
If you guys do expand and plan to hire former XJT pilots, it would be wise to stay away from the very senior guys over there. Good pilots, but most of them are former ASA guys who like to **** and moan about everything. I can understand their frustrations given all they have been through, but it makes for a long trip sitting next to someone like that all day!
12-28-2020, 06:49 AM
#446
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 126
It’s tough but doable. It’s part of the job. I headed off to new hire at UA and left my wife (who works) at home with our 15 month old. I was gone for 2 weeks straight and then 6 weeks straight. You need strong relationship and wife who can handle running a household on her own.
I took care of the financials while in training. It doesn’t change once you hit the line. Commuting to reserve, working holidays/birthdays.
I agree with all the above posters. If you’re family can’t handle the 2-3 months of training... It’s also true that those who go home more struggle. Witnessed it at the regional level as a LCA and watched my classmates struggle at UA who took weekends off.
I took care of the financials while in training. It doesn’t change once you hit the line. Commuting to reserve, working holidays/birthdays.
I agree with all the above posters. If you’re family can’t handle the 2-3 months of training... It’s also true that those who go home more struggle. Witnessed it at the regional level as a LCA and watched my classmates struggle at UA who took weekends off.
01-02-2021, 06:29 AM
#450
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 413
A new hire will likely be able to obtain it (especially on the FO side), but it won't be filled with new hires that want IAH.
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