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Old 08-18-2020, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStar32
wow, they are still giving out referral bonuses in this hiring environment??
No referral bonuses.
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Old 08-18-2020, 10:50 AM
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C'mon now. You work at C5. You know there is no such thing as DEC. You also should know that upgrades are awarded in seniority order as long as there are FO's that 1) meet the requirements for upgrade and 2) bid for upgrade at whatever base will be awarded. For example, I highly doubt any upgrade vacancies will be posted for EWR or IAD captains. The next vacancy -- whenever it is -- will most likely be for IAH captains. If you are an upgrade eligible (i.e.​ meet the requirements) FO in EWR or IAD don't want to commute to IAH you may choose to delay upgrading until you can hold captain in your preferred base. At that point, the company would award the upgrade to someone outside seniority order. It may be the next person on the seniority list or it may even be someone going through training. But, nobody is hired as a captain. We do not have anything in our contract that permits that.

Now, did you listen to the MEC call yesterday? If not, I'll fill you in. We currently have about 35-40 FOs that meet the requirements to upgrade. They would be offered the opportunity to upgrade before any "DEC". Whether they choose to or not is totally up to them.

Someone (presumably an FO) asked on the call if there is any way to "protect" FOs that almost have the time to upgrade. Short answer: no. Long answer: it was a dumb question and the answer is still no. See above; upgrades are awarded to the eligible people when the vacancy closes. Period, end of story.

Sorry if my post sounds like I'm being a jerk. Maybe this is why the MEC doesn't let me moderate the calls. They probably know I would answer a number of questions by saying something along the lines of, "That's a dumb question...moving on." Lol...just kidding...kind of.
Where do you expect the IAH base to fall in terms of seniority? Are there a lot of commuters in EWR and IAD? Is it reasonable for a new-hire to expect any base except IAH? TIA
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Old 08-18-2020, 11:09 AM
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Where do you expect the IAH base to fall in terms of seniority? Are there a lot of commuters in EWR and IAD? Is it reasonable for a new-hire to expect any base except IAH? TIA
You’re asking a question that is answered by conjecture at best during good times, at this stage in the game most people don’t know if their company will still be around when they land, let alone what base a new hire is going to get.

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Old 08-18-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
You’re asking a question that is answered by conjecture at best during good times, at this stage in the game most people don’t know if their company will still be around when they land, let alone what base a new hire is going to get.

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It's an expanding seniority list. It's lower pay than Mesa but it's reportedly hiring.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
You’re asking a question that is answered by conjecture at best during good times, at this stage in the game most people don’t know if their company will still be around when they land, let alone what base a new hire is going to get.

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Very helpful, thank you
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It's an expanding seniority list. It's lower pay than Mesa but it's reportedly hiring.
I didn’t say anything to imply they aren’t. I’m just saying that any “will I get this base or that base” questions are pretty much moot until the industry stabilizes.
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Old 08-18-2020, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sigler
Where do you expect the IAH base to fall in terms of seniority? Are there a lot of commuters in EWR and IAD? Is it reasonable for a new-hire to expect any base except IAH? TIA
They just opened the IAH vacancy yesterday. It closes in 10 days. Until then, I really have no idea. We have a good mix of commuters and people that live in base. We also have some Aussies that may be interested in moving somewhere warmer than EWR. Hard to say at this point.
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Old 08-18-2020, 11:32 AM
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They just opened the IAH vacancy yesterday. It closes in 10 days. Until then, I really have no idea. We have a good mix of commuters and people that live in base. We also have some Aussies that may be interested in moving somewhere warmer than EWR. Hard to say at this point.
Ok, thanks. I bet commuters would probably prefer to commute to IAH from pretty much anywhere except the northeast. Cheaper hotels, crash pads, less delays, etc. Time will tell.
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Old 08-18-2020, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStar32
wow, they are still giving out referral bonuses in this hiring environment??
The referral bonus is your referral might actually get hired. So you should actually know your referral because you might be stuck on a 4 day trip with them...
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Old 08-18-2020, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStar32
wow, they are still giving out referral bonuses in this hiring environment??
I tell people to PM me because time wasters generally don't bother.
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