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06-09-2018, 07:15 PM
#361
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We are upgrading and UA is starting classes again and skimming guys off of the top of our seniority list. We are adding 1 1/2 planes a month and have been upgrading for the last few months with bids for upgrade through Aug right now. Upgrades are around a year right now as you can see in v1valarob posts. There are 4 more upgrades for August. We are running classes every couple of weeks.
06-11-2018, 06:21 AM
#362
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I have heard that from a lot of guys.
We are upgrading and UA is starting classes again and skimming guys off of the top of our seniority list. We are adding 1 1/2 planes a month and have been upgrading for the last few months with bids for upgrade through Aug right now. Upgrades are around a year right now as you can see in v1valarob posts. There are 4 more upgrades for August. We are running classes every couple of weeks.
We are upgrading and UA is starting classes again and skimming guys off of the top of our seniority list. We are adding 1 1/2 planes a month and have been upgrading for the last few months with bids for upgrade through Aug right now. Upgrades are around a year right now as you can see in v1valarob posts. There are 4 more upgrades for August. We are running classes every couple of weeks.
06-11-2018, 07:37 AM
#364
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I believe so. We had a big hiring wave about a year and a half ago and these first officers are now sitting right around 1000 hrs 121. So it'll be tied to seniority. It seems that things are moving along pretty smoothly in the pipeline right now. With that said, the more we are able to hire, the quicker we'll be able to accept aircraft, which could speed up upgrade times for those coming in with previous experience.
06-11-2018, 07:54 AM
#365
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I believe so. We had a big hiring wave about a year and a half ago and these first officers are now sitting right around 1000 hrs 121. So it'll be tied to seniority. It seems that things are moving along pretty smoothly in the pipeline right now. With that said, the more we are able to hire, the quicker we'll be able to accept aircraft, which could speed up upgrade times for those coming in with previous experience.
From what I've heard, do not be surprised to see the pool of eligible FOs exhausted by the end of summer. Upgrades coming during indoc may not be far off again.
Standard airline disclaimer- believe it when you see it, prior performance no indication of future results.
06-18-2018, 07:04 AM
#367
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Position: EMB145
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This will happen IF we can fill classes.
06-18-2018, 10:26 AM
#368
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Here's hoping we don't repeat the mistake of two years ago, and fill classes with a mix of upgrade eligible pilots and some that aren't. While upgrades are great for everyone, kind of throws a wrench in the works when we suddenly don't have FO's because we upgraded all the new hires.
06-18-2018, 05:24 PM
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Here's hoping we don't repeat the mistake of two years ago, and fill classes with a mix of upgrade eligible pilots and some that aren't. While upgrades are great for everyone, kind of throws a wrench in the works when we suddenly don't have FO's because we upgraded all the new hires.
It worked 2 years ago because they only had to award 30% of jet CA spots to dash CAs. The rest were 100% FOs or new hires. So they could force the pilot group to allow off the street jet CAs.
It's going to be much riskier to try as a street CA now here. If you get in on the front of the wave, it'll work out well. If you get in on the back end, there will be classes of captain eligible pilots ahead of you AND the FOs that are reaching 1000 hours.
And this isn't an Endeavor or Envoy where being a FO is a decent place to hang out or there is an abnormally bad base (NYC) to bid around.
06-19-2018, 07:27 AM
#370
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As of 6/19/2018
Red & Bold = New Information
Junior First Officer:
EWR - New Hire
IAD - 3/5/2018
Junior Captain*:
EWR - 10/3/16
IAD - 10/3/16
*CommutAir has CQFs. The bottom 5% of awarded Captains are CQFs by seniority. This is why there is a discrepancy between upgrade dates listed below, and junior captain date. Junior captain date listed is someone who is holding full Captain, not CQF.
Upgrades:
March: 6
April: 6
May: 10
June: 10 (Junior Award: 4/10/2017)
July: 2 (Junior Award: 6/6/2016)
August: 4
Junior CA Line Holder:
EWR - 07/05/2016
IAD - 06/06/2016
Junior FO Line Holder:
EWR - 02/20/2018
IAD - 11/30/2017
CPP:
December 2017: 6
January 2018: 3
February 2018: 7
June 2018: 3
Pilots listed on the seniority list as of June 1st, 2018: 305
Pilots listed on domicile list as of June 19th, 2018: 279
Current list of E145 aircraft on our D085:
Current Destinations by Hub:
EWR:
IAD:
Red & Bold = New Information
Junior First Officer:
EWR - New Hire
IAD - 3/5/2018
Junior Captain*:
EWR - 10/3/16
IAD - 10/3/16
*CommutAir has CQFs. The bottom 5% of awarded Captains are CQFs by seniority. This is why there is a discrepancy between upgrade dates listed below, and junior captain date. Junior captain date listed is someone who is holding full Captain, not CQF.
Upgrades:
March: 6
April: 6
May: 10
June: 10 (Junior Award: 4/10/2017)
July: 2 (Junior Award: 6/6/2016)
August: 4
Junior CA Line Holder:
EWR - 07/05/2016
IAD - 06/06/2016
Junior FO Line Holder:
EWR - 02/20/2018
IAD - 11/30/2017
CPP:
December 2017: 6
January 2018: 3
February 2018: 7
June 2018: 3
Pilots listed on the seniority list as of June 1st, 2018: 305
Pilots listed on domicile list as of June 19th, 2018: 279
Current list of E145 aircraft on our D085:
- N11176
- N11181
- N11187
- N11191
- N11193
- N11194
- N11199
- N12157
- N12160
- N13161
- N13202
- N14143
- N14162
- N14171
- N14177
- N14179
- N14186
- N14198
- N14204
- N16147
- N16183
- N17169
- N21154
- N21197
- N27190
- N33182
Current Destinations by Hub:
EWR:
- ALB
- AVP
- BDL
- BTV
- BUF
- BWI
- CLE
- CMH
- ELM
- GRR
- GSO
- GSP
- IAD
- IND
- ITH
- JAX
- MEM
- MHT
- ORF
- PVD
- PWM
- RIC
- ROC
- SAV
- SDF
- STL
- SYR
IAD:
- ALB
- BDL
- CHO
- EWR
- IND
- JAX
- MDT
- PWM
- RIC
- ROA
- ROC
- SCE
- SDF
- STL
- SYR
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