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Old 04-27-2018, 08:37 AM
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I have a question for current CommutAir pilots

My flight school just announced they are in the process for being a partner with CommutAir. That’s kind of exciting because since I live less than 10minutes away from IAD, it would be perfect, especially with the prospect of going to UA. So with that being said, I understand that for the CPP you need a college degree before you can get hired by UA. How long would it take to get a bachelors degree if you claim all of your pilot certificates for credit? I assume that this is a common thing regional pilots do
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Old 04-27-2018, 03:13 PM
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I did it in less than 2 years online at ERAU.

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Old 04-27-2018, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Macchi30
I have a question for current CommutAir pilots

My flight school just announced they are in the process for being a partner with CommutAir. That’s kind of exciting because since I live less than 10minutes away from IAD, it would be perfect, especially with the prospect of going to UA. So with that being said, I understand that for the CPP you need a college degree before you can get hired by UA. How long would it take to get a bachelors degree if you claim all of your pilot certificates for credit? I assume that this is a common thing regional pilots do
You can generally get up to 45 credits towards a Bachelor's. It'd take roughly 2 years to obtain a degree.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:23 PM
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I did my college degree in 6 semesters, including 2 summers. It took a total of about 2 years. I went to UVU. Take a look at Thomas Edison- I’ve heard you can test out of more and make it even faster.
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:15 AM
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Ok so that doesn’t sound to bad. This brings me to my next question, how is flow to UA determined? I know with the AA wholly owned it’s seniority based, but according to CommutAir’s website someone flowed to UA in about 2 years. I assume that isn’t average, so I’m curious how it actually works
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Old 04-28-2018, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Macchi30
Ok so that doesn’t sound to bad. This brings me to my next question, how is flow to UA determined? I know with the AA wholly owned it’s seniority based, but according to CommutAir’s website someone flowed to UA in about 2 years. I assume that isn’t average, so I’m curious how it actually works
It is a preferential interview, NOT a flow. That means you get to attempt the interview process with UAL. If you are successful in the Hogan and interview then you are “in” the CPP. At that point you are going to be offered a class date at UAL once you have completed your time/degree requirements, your CPP seniority is next in line, and UAL is running new hire classes. If one were to get hired today with zero 121 time, upgraded in 18 months, and got their 1000 PIC with C5 in 18 additional months, and was successful on the first CPP attempt; you are looking at a minimum of 3 years.
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Old 04-28-2018, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HercDiver
It is a preferential interview, NOT a flow. That means you get to attempt the interview process with UAL. If you are successful in the Hogan and interview then you are “in” the CPP. At that point you are going to be offered a class date at UAL once you have completed your time/degree requirements, your CPP seniority is next in line, and UAL is running new hire classes. If one were to get hired today with zero 121 time, upgraded in 18 months, and got their 1000 PIC with C5 in 18 additional months, and was successful on the first CPP attempt; you are looking at a minimum of 3 years.
I see. That’s a good point tho, so if I were to mess up the interview or the assessment, i’d be out of luck. Ideally i’d like to fly for UA. But it almost seems like it’s a safer route to try to get on with PSA and have a true flow to AA..
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Old 04-28-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Macchi30
I see. That’s a good point tho, so if I were to mess up the interview or the assessment, i’d be out of luck. Ideally i’d like to fly for UA. But it almost seems like it’s a safer route to try to get on with PSA and have a true flow to AA..
AA is unquestionably a safer route.
You can fail the Hogan once and get a retake.
Also, like said, it is a MINUMUM three years to get to UA under best case scenarios, which are almost guaranteed not to happen.
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Old 04-28-2018, 09:46 AM
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Also, like said, it is a MINUMUM three years to get to UA under best case scenarios, which are almost guaranteed not to happen.
Best case scenario was 2 years and a few days. It'll never happen again, but in theory it could.

Realistically, I would expect 4 years to CPP to United if you can meet all the requirements. 18 months on property to get your 1000 SIC, 24 months to get your 1000 PIC, and 6 months sitting in the pool. You're going to have to work hard to meet those numbers, but it's totally doable.

And you're not going to a major without 1000 TPIC. So unless something radical happens in the industry, you're going to be at a regional for 4 years to build 1000 TPIC regardless.
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:00 AM
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And you're not going to a major without 1000 TPIC. So unless something radical happens in the industry, you're going to be at a regional for 4 years to build 1000 TPIC regardless.
Delta regularly has new hires with less than 1000TPIC, many with zero TPIC. From what I’ve seen, at least several in every class don’t have 1000.

JetBlue, Spirit and Frontier all hire without 1000TPIC.
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