RedWhiteAndBlue

Just for the record, I am a line pilot.

Everyone trust Jonny.....he got the inside scoop. I guess that’s it then.

Enjoy the “Atlas” ride people. We are getting totally screwed up one side and down the other.

I can’t wait to flush teamsters and the 1224.

JonnyKnoxville

Right....good luck with that one. Try changing screen names three or four more times and keep posting. I am sure everyone will eventually become convinced.

By the way, excellent job on the 35 total posts you have with this screen name with all the posts being on this thread. I know I am convinced.

stickwiggler

You're right. It was a good slam. Unfortunately, that where you ceased being correct.

You can make all the soap box lectures that you want about supporting other pilots, but the fact is you're not supporting the Omni pilots.
They (we) have made it clear that we would like to see a contract based on the proposals already on the table;
that is what the majority of this pilot group wants.

Advocating that other pilots miss out on tens of thousands of $ in an effort to achieve contract goals that were not even on our wish list because our national union is looking out for the interests of another carrier (the one that you work for, ergo your personal gain) all under the guise supporting us is in deed deceitful and cowardice.

But maybe you're neither of those things.

Maybe you are so entrenched in your pro-union belief that you've lost your ability to respect the wishes of others.

We are just is capable of making a decision about what is best for our future as you are.

Your continued mantra of our pilot group not knowing their worth or settling or being duped by management tactics
is tiresome and insulting.

If you and your fellow atlas pilot want to hold out for the moon and the stars, God speed!

I, and I assume the majority of our pilot group will not spend hours on the atlas board chastising you or advising you on the proper course of action.

Please extend us that same courtesy.

Globemaster2827

Well when things go wrong at least you know who to blame...

JonnyKnoxville

The majority of the pilot group....(we)? Is that like:

Dutch80
RedWhiteAndBlue
Dubiousbrother
Rosebud10
Fraannk
or any other new screen name you decide to create?

Isn't there anything else better to do in Tulsa other than running an airline into the ground?

Dubiousbrother

Your on to us. I mean me.
It’s not coming from Tulsa however, it originates from Area 51.

Don’t tell anyone...

stickwiggler

******

But you're right, you know better. I mean I only work here and have personally spoke with over 50 of our pilots- who overwhelming support that position.

aviatorhi

Whether there are individuals from Tulsa trying to stoke the fires here or not is not out of the question, I personally have some suspicions. But it really doesn't change the sentiment I've seen from a LOT of guys of wanting this proposal TA'd with strong language or at least made public for us to see the holes we're being told are there but noone can so much as speculate on.

JonnyKnoxville

That is it? What, nobody else? All it takes is logging out and then logging back in with a different username and password.

Wait, that's right, the business day hasn't started in Tulsa yet.

maxjet

Ok John, I am going to take what you say as truth and follow it through to a conclusion which I think may get you off this silly rant.

I had dinner in HNL with some OMNI guys I met there. This has been my only exposure to them other than the influx of ones now working at K4. They all seem to agree with the OMNI posters on here, regarding the TA.

If the posters on here are management as you write, they seem to be on the same page as the Pilots.

That would make what they are accusing 1224 of doing even worse. If 1224 mgt. has an issue with the TA why are they not showing it to the Pilots and telling them what the objection is. Oh wait, that’s because that was the strategy used at K4. The K4 Negotiators went up the chain at the Teamsters and were rejected. They then went with the company to NLB and through legal means obtained the right to vote on the TA.

However, if you don’t know what 1224 is objecting to then you would not be able to fix it or appeal it.