Omni Air
11-25-2023, 07:29 AM
#4141
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As ACMI jobs go it's better than most overall (opinion). Compensation wise has taken a real beating as everybody else gets much better contracts, and even the OK QOL stuff now lags other carriers. There was no reason to leave just a few years ago. Nobody left for anything except a legacy where they could live in base. Nobody left to be a commuter again. After all the legacy and LCC raises guys were leaving in droves. That has slowed a bit over the holidays but will definately pick up again after new year. We even had guy that left for Direct Entry Regional Captain jobs because they'd be based at home at get full 121 longevity making it a $210k first year, plus a $100k sign-on bonus. A CP resigned and went to a regional management position, several senior check airmen and instructors went to LCC's.
There's lots of options right now. If you really want ACMI, I'd go to Atlas. We rarely break guarantee except for a few hard lines that get into the 70's. So plan on 64 hours.
Amerijet has a great contract pay wise, but how stable is the company? Eastern is taking DEC's, paying 200%, but again.... how stable is the job. So, you can definately go earn more elsewhere... but frankly, Omni has been doing this for 30 years, and they do it well. It's all PAX, no cargo currently.
If you are focused on ACMI and given the choice, I'd do Atlas. Currently, any LCC (except maybe Frontier, Allegiant & Sun Country) would be better than any ACMI, unless commuting is involved. Those other three are primarilly out and back day trips, so unless you live in base, life would be Hell. (Frontier is currently transitioning to the out and back model, so turnover from commuters leaving will pick up big time soon, and could mean a quicker upgrade if you live in one of their bases).
If you've got the minimums for Omni, then you've got the minimums for AA, Delta, United, Southwest, Jetblue, and Spirit. Any of those will be a much more productive career than Omni at this point. If you live in base, you can add Allegiant, Sun Country and Frontier to the list. The direct contributions to the 401k retirement alone are worth going. Upgrade at any of the legacies is under 2 years, and United just had a new hire class offered 737 upgrades in three bases while still in new hire training.
It's at the point that even I'm dusting off the resume. Running a spreadsheet on career earning potential using just basic estimates has the difference between here and even the cheapest LCC in the millions. With a legacy, the difference over the remaining career is just astronomical and is close to 10 million more than staying here. That's too much to leave on the table.... And this from a guy that never planned to leave.
All things considered, Atlas if you have to have ACMI, otherwise go to a legacy or LCC.
There's lots of options right now. If you really want ACMI, I'd go to Atlas. We rarely break guarantee except for a few hard lines that get into the 70's. So plan on 64 hours.
Amerijet has a great contract pay wise, but how stable is the company? Eastern is taking DEC's, paying 200%, but again.... how stable is the job. So, you can definately go earn more elsewhere... but frankly, Omni has been doing this for 30 years, and they do it well. It's all PAX, no cargo currently.
If you are focused on ACMI and given the choice, I'd do Atlas. Currently, any LCC (except maybe Frontier, Allegiant & Sun Country) would be better than any ACMI, unless commuting is involved. Those other three are primarilly out and back day trips, so unless you live in base, life would be Hell. (Frontier is currently transitioning to the out and back model, so turnover from commuters leaving will pick up big time soon, and could mean a quicker upgrade if you live in one of their bases).
If you've got the minimums for Omni, then you've got the minimums for AA, Delta, United, Southwest, Jetblue, and Spirit. Any of those will be a much more productive career than Omni at this point. If you live in base, you can add Allegiant, Sun Country and Frontier to the list. The direct contributions to the 401k retirement alone are worth going. Upgrade at any of the legacies is under 2 years, and United just had a new hire class offered 737 upgrades in three bases while still in new hire training.
It's at the point that even I'm dusting off the resume. Running a spreadsheet on career earning potential using just basic estimates has the difference between here and even the cheapest LCC in the millions. With a legacy, the difference over the remaining career is just astronomical and is close to 10 million more than staying here. That's too much to leave on the table.... And this from a guy that never planned to leave.
All things considered, Atlas if you have to have ACMI, otherwise go to a legacy or LCC.
Thnx Cujo !! Im 135 background, not enough to qualify for direct entry capt regional. Any LCC is a commute except Spirit who just quit hiring. Reapplying to SWA in Dec and take it from there. Feeling Omini schedule and experience would be great for the resume if I screw up SWA interview again. Not liking the Atlas schedule w a small kid at home, at least Omni I have a chance of split schedule. Ive heard everyone switches to the longer schedule after a month or two but well see. I dont mind sleeping on an airline and being paid. Pay not really an issue, just experience bc you are right, no way you touch the retirement at a legcy. Much appreciated.
FT
11-26-2023, 01:45 PM
#4143
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Omni Air International
Was wondering if anybody reavlly know whats going on at Omni. Friends there say there have been several really senior Check Airman leaving and that management does really care.
Kinda of pis poor management looking in from the outsde. What is the hiring situation like, been told there is still a stink on them from the time they sent a new hire class home ater they started class.
l,,
Kinda of pis poor management looking in from the outsde. What is the hiring situation like, been told there is still a stink on them from the time they sent a new hire class home ater they started class.
l,,
11-27-2023, 11:49 AM
#4144
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Captain
Posts: 461
Yes, management DOESN'T care.
it's not just the senior pilots leaving. Every internal department has lost experienced people under the new mismanagement culture. Omni is a micromanaged dumpster fire that should be avoided at all costs.
11-28-2023, 07:48 AM
#4146
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Thnx Cujo !! Im 135 background, not enough to qualify for direct entry capt regional. Any LCC is a commute except Spirit who just quit hiring. Reapplying to SWA in Dec and take it from there. Feeling Omini schedule and experience would be great for the resume if I screw up SWA interview again. Not liking the Atlas schedule w a small kid at home, at least Omni I have a chance of split schedule. Ive heard everyone switches to the longer schedule after a month or two but well see. I dont mind sleeping on an airline and being paid. Pay not really an issue, just experience bc you are right, no way you touch the retirement at a legcy. Much appreciated.
FT
FT
Whats the deal with the new Chief Pilot coming out of retirement there was nobody there that could have taken the Job, mmh must be a reason !
11-28-2023, 04:36 PM
#4147
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Thnx Cujo !! Im 135 background, not enough to qualify for direct entry capt regional. Any LCC is a commute except Spirit who just quit hiring. Reapplying to SWA in Dec and take it from there. Feeling Omini schedule and experience would be great for the resume if I screw up SWA interview again. Not liking the Atlas schedule w a small kid at home, at least Omni I have a chance of split schedule. Ive heard everyone switches to the longer schedule after a month or two but well see. I dont mind sleeping on an airline and being paid. Pay not really an issue, just experience bc you are right, no way you touch the retirement at a legcy. Much appreciated.
FT
FT
and 13/4 have been showing up. Even saw 14/3 for December.
id be willing to bet the trip variety is better at Atlas actually. We had 32 FO lines for December in GenPop. A lot more than normal were splits this month. Few flights over xmass, so fewer reserve days over xmass.
if you have an Atlas interview, go there. We've given planes away the past few years while everybody else has been growing. Nuff said. Thats my advice.
11-28-2023, 07:00 PM
#4148
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: FO
Posts: 87
Again my question is WHY ARE THE SENIOR GUYS LEAVING AND CHECK AIRMAN, this is ussually unheard of in the industry but its happening at Omni. Heavy Driver must be right totally mismanaged and guys are getting tired of it.
Whats the deal with the new Chief Pilot coming out of retirement there was nobody there that could have taken the Job, mmh must be a reason !
Whats the deal with the new Chief Pilot coming out of retirement there was nobody there that could have taken the Job, mmh must be a reason !
11-29-2023, 04:04 AM
#4149
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,595
Thnx Cujo !! Im 135 background, not enough to qualify for direct entry capt regional. Any LCC is a commute except Spirit who just quit hiring. Reapplying to SWA in Dec and take it from there. Feeling Omini schedule and experience would be great for the resume if I screw up SWA interview again. Not liking the Atlas schedule w a small kid at home, at least Omni I have a chance of split schedule. Ive heard everyone switches to the longer schedule after a month or two but well see. I dont mind sleeping on an airline and being paid. Pay not really an issue, just experience bc you are right, no way you touch the retirement at a legcy. Much appreciated.
FT
FT
11-29-2023, 05:16 AM
#4150
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Joined APC: Mar 2023
Posts: 40
Omni only had 10 days to replace the former CP that quit because of the previous mentioned leadership or lack there of. That's the regulation. DR tried to get an unqalifed applicant as the new CP but the FAA denied it. Rightfully so. Since that plan didn't workout in DR favor, he had to scramble to find a replacement or get a compliance letter from the FAA. So, he called a recent retired Omni pilot that just so happened to live near headquarters. That's called a convienacne.
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