CardboardCutout

No idea about the triple (I never heard anything bad), but the 76 training was excellent. It was my first Boeing and I'm not exactly Chuck Yeager, and I got through with very little stress. Good instructors, good program all around, IMHO.

Guard

Well I checked into it and it would be almost $285 a month, more than my health care.

Cujo665

you mean the deal the union offered with an outside insurance carrier? Yeah, I agree. It was not practical.

then, our LTD is capped and even then doesn’t even cover loss of medical like most LCC, majors and legacy.

catmanhairy

How's contract negotiations going?

Cujo665

company saying they want a deal, then doing everything they can to not actually get one.

Stay far away from any ATSG carrier. My concerns when they bought us have been realized.

Ford & Harrison

need I say more?

Monkeywizz

Guaranteed interview with Omni Air International


Alpine Air APC page updated with guaranteed Omni Air interview. Anyone know the details?

Overlander

Check with Alpine air for specific requirements. A bunch of their guys have come over here.


Been trying to get main page updated for Omni but pre-PC training pay is $1500 a week ($6000 a month) and they updated their travel reimbursement to $500 to get to training.

HeavyDriver

Of course the reason ATSG stock is down another 5% is because of Omni Air. Our small profitable airline is the cause of all of ATSG’s problems.

I’m glad that one financial analyst during the question and answers saw right through the ATSG leadership and questioned their ability and experience to manage and grow the company. Bravo!

Fat Tony

Recently offered a job w Omni. Sounds ok. Reading this stuff has me a little worried.

1. Hoping any new guys could chime in on ability to get split schedule.

2. Any pilots- how are things in general?
Since being bought sounds like it went downhill. All places have their issues, I get it. Is it that bad where 2 months in online Ill be hating life and just have to suffer 10 more?

3. Sounded like there may have been issues w training dept but resolved?

Thnx everyone. Fat Tony !!!!

Cujo665

As ACMI jobs go it's better than most overall (opinion). Compensation wise has taken a real beating as everybody else gets much better contracts, and even the OK QOL stuff now lags other carriers. There was no reason to leave just a few years ago. Nobody left for anything except a legacy where they could live in base. Nobody left to be a commuter again. After all the legacy and LCC raises guys were leaving in droves. That has slowed a bit over the holidays but will definately pick up again after new year. We even had guy that left for Direct Entry Regional Captain jobs because they'd be based at home at get full 121 longevity making it a $210k first year, plus a $100k sign-on bonus. A CP resigned and went to a regional management position, several senior check airmen and instructors went to LCC's.
There's lots of options right now. If you really want ACMI, I'd go to Atlas. We rarely break guarantee except for a few hard lines that get into the 70's. So plan on 64 hours.

Amerijet has a great contract pay wise, but how stable is the company? Eastern is taking DEC's, paying 200%, but again.... how stable is the job. So, you can definately go earn more elsewhere... but frankly, Omni has been doing this for 30 years, and they do it well. It's all PAX, no cargo currently.

If you are focused on ACMI and given the choice, I'd do Atlas. Currently, any LCC (except maybe Frontier, Allegiant & Sun Country) would be better than any ACMI, unless commuting is involved. Those other three are primarilly out and back day trips, so unless you live in base, life would be Hell. (Frontier is currently transitioning to the out and back model, so turnover from commuters leaving will pick up big time soon, and could mean a quicker upgrade if you live in one of their bases).

If you've got the minimums for Omni, then you've got the minimums for AA, Delta, United, Southwest, Jetblue, and Spirit. Any of those will be a much more productive career than Omni at this point. If you live in base, you can add Allegiant, Sun Country and Frontier to the list. The direct contributions to the 401k retirement alone are worth going. Upgrade at any of the legacies is under 2 years, and United just had a new hire class offered 737 upgrades in three bases while still in new hire training.

It's at the point that even I'm dusting off the resume. Running a spreadsheet on career earning potential using just basic estimates has the difference between here and even the cheapest LCC in the millions. With a legacy, the difference over the remaining career is just astronomical and is close to 10 million more than staying here. That's too much to leave on the table.... And this from a guy that never planned to leave.

All things considered, Atlas if you have to have ACMI, otherwise go to a legacy or LCC.