pitchtrim

That's pretty much what I'm saying. I came here for the home basing and will be staying for the home basing. It won't be going away with the Dod stuff anyway you cut it. I'm not opposed to adding different types of flying to the company, in fact that's smart, provided the pay is REALLY good. Some people would jump on it, or apply here to do it. A revolving door of people will continue to come here and go to UPS. How about we make something for them to stay? How about that additional revenue be something that can bump up our abysmal retirement across the board? I'm only interested in the DOD flying personally. We did vacations Hawaii for example with a Vegas base. I wasn't interested in it either but some people were all about it. Surely something can be worked out.

Cujo665

The company had already agreed to company travel for VH pilots then the program cancelled.......

Nope, no jumpseating & crashpads; that dog don't hunt. That's a foot in the door that should not be opened. If they want Fedex/UPS style flying, apply there.

Look, they applied for this cargo contract bid with our CURRENT labor contract. They would not have applied if it were not profitable. They need to stop looking at employee wage/compensation/benefits cuts as a means to increase profits. It's already profitable or they wouldn't have bid it.

NO, to domicile basing. It's as simple as that.

Finally, we should stop discussing this on a public BBS. I know from personal experience dealing with Ford & Harrison that they DO monitor this stuff, they do have accounts on here, and they will toss stuff out just to get a gauge on stuff. DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME

My unon speaks for me !

4dalulz

That's good to hear. It's not Cujos update/rundown of the current status, but the other guy who's been triggered that seems to have a "get off my lawn" attitude that I was referring to. And, sure, it might be "your lawn" but it's "our neighborhood".

And if you don't like my "stated life goals" GET OFF MY LAWN! Clown.

pitchtrim

The union hasn't and won't discuss future flying prospects. They should be NEGOTIATING with the company. I blame the union as much as the company.

Cujo665

I'm not discussing negotiations publicly, nor your perception of what is or isn't happening.

My union speaks for Me.

The place to speak to them about what you'd like is via email, or a phone call, not here. Their email addresses are all right on our union website.

pitchtrim

I have talked to them. If you ask them if they've asked for the financial gains, they'll say no. They might speak for you but they don't speak for me.

Cujo665

Look, you're only telling half the story. They have not even opened that section of the CBA for negotiation yet, and that's why it hasn't been discussed. They've sent out detailed emails with sections TA'd already, sections in negotiations, and sections not yet addressed.

You're putting the cart before the horse, whipping it in public, and then blaming the horse for not doing it your way.
Just stop. Stop bargaining in public. Stop telegraphing the company what you'd accept or expect and stick to informing your representatives. I'll be happy to debate you in a PM, feel free.

Monkeywizz

[QUOTE=pitchtrim;3599746]I have talked to them. If you ask them if they've asked for the financial gains, they'll say no. They might speak for you but they don't speak for me.[/QUO


Such an obvious Ford and Harrison plant/management plant. Do not fall for this trolling. I have seen these internet tactics from them at another airline.




The Union speaks for all pilots.


Might be time for authorizing a strike vote to show solidarity.

pitchtrim

[QUOTE=Monkeywizz;3599783]
Now that's funny!

RezRunner

[QUOTE=pitchtrim;3599801]PitchTrim, dude shut the ****** up man. Use your head, or listen to someone that does.