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Originally Posted by yancharlie
Mr 740i, you need to have the ability to look at all prospectives. If i take away all your type ratings and your multiple hours flying jets around and send you out in the field to go get a job so someone can say "your Tprop time doesn't count" how would you feel.
Originally Posted by yancharlie
Remember that just because you feel like you comfortable with the job you have now, does not mean your company can't go belly up in the next ten years, and you could be seeking employment at a place where i can be the guy that can help you land an interview. Now do you think if i know who you are, with your heartless mentality, do you think i will help you out? Remember strange things have happened in aviation, quit drinking before you post.
However, the sheer arrogance of threatening me with that fact based off of two or three exchanges on a message board shows that you might indeed be the heartless one.
The funny thing is that only you have mentioned this "Turboprop pilots aren't as good as Jet pilots" thing. Most professional pilots wouldn't even consider this to be true because it's asinine. I don't think I'll ever be as good of a stick as I was when I was flying turboprops with no autopilot.
What it all boils down to is an airline can freely set it's minimums wherever they choose because they can.
#322
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 66
Now we have some commone ground and can communicate.
I agree with you 100%. But remember, Just because a company has the freedom to do whatever they want does not mean it's good practice. We are mostly given the freedom to do what we want, but there's right and wrong. And for me, saying to someone on his face that "We don't take Tprop guys" is flat out wrong.
Remember you came at me with the Entitlement thing on your first post which was not a great way to post a first response.
I've been there with a logbook full of turboprop time. You know what I did? Keep plugging away. Things take time. I eventually got my break. You will too. Patience is a virtue.
I'm glad that you know how it feels, and some day like you said there will be a break, and i'm waiting patiently.
I don't disagree with this statement at all, because this is indeed a small industry and I've yet to work for a company that I've ever really been fully "comfortable".
However, the sheer arrogance of threatening me with that fact based off of two or three exchanges on a message board shows that you might indeed be the heartless one.I was just giving a scenario that has been a reality for some peoples i have talked to. If you ever need a job to put food on a table and pay the bills i have never denied anybody. Hell, i have helped a college buddy of mine which i did not like, that nobody in my class actually liked, but he came to me and asked me to help him get the flying gig and i did.
The funny thing is that only you have mentioned this "Turboprop pilots aren't as good as Jet pilots" thing. Most professional pilots wouldn't even consider this to be true because it's asinine. I don't think I'll ever be as good of a stick as I was when I was flying turboprops with no autopilot.
I never said Tprop aren't as good as jet, I said omni recruiter rejected my friend resume and told him they're not taking Tprop guys. 99% of the pilot in their right mind knows it B.S. But reality is right now Tprop PIC guys are having a hard time finding better gigs than going back at the bottom of a regional and build some jet times. Which a lot of my friends including me are flirting with that idea.
What it all boils down to is an airline can freely set it's minimums wherever they choose because they can.
I've been there with a logbook full of turboprop time. You know what I did? Keep plugging away. Things take time. I eventually got my break. You will too. Patience is a virtue.
I'm glad that you know how it feels, and some day like you said there will be a break, and i'm waiting patiently.
I don't disagree with this statement at all, because this is indeed a small industry and I've yet to work for a company that I've ever really been fully "comfortable".
However, the sheer arrogance of threatening me with that fact based off of two or three exchanges on a message board shows that you might indeed be the heartless one.I was just giving a scenario that has been a reality for some peoples i have talked to. If you ever need a job to put food on a table and pay the bills i have never denied anybody. Hell, i have helped a college buddy of mine which i did not like, that nobody in my class actually liked, but he came to me and asked me to help him get the flying gig and i did.
The funny thing is that only you have mentioned this "Turboprop pilots aren't as good as Jet pilots" thing. Most professional pilots wouldn't even consider this to be true because it's asinine. I don't think I'll ever be as good of a stick as I was when I was flying turboprops with no autopilot.
I never said Tprop aren't as good as jet, I said omni recruiter rejected my friend resume and told him they're not taking Tprop guys. 99% of the pilot in their right mind knows it B.S. But reality is right now Tprop PIC guys are having a hard time finding better gigs than going back at the bottom of a regional and build some jet times. Which a lot of my friends including me are flirting with that idea.
What it all boils down to is an airline can freely set it's minimums wherever they choose because they can.
#323
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Pilot
Posts: 2,625
I agree with you 100%. But remember, Just because a company has the freedom to do whatever they want does not mean it's good practice. We are mostly given the freedom to do what we want, but there's right and wrong. And for me, saying to someone on his face that "We don't take Tprop guys" is flat out wrong.
#324
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
BTW....is English your primary language?
#325
I don't know his exact times, but i know for sure we are pretty close to about the same times. Which for me is 3,910 TT, 3,600 Dash 8 100(37seats)/ Dash 8 300(50seats), 121 airline flying mostly up in the north east of the U.S. I don't know what other experiences beside the international crossing you looking for, but anybody that can handle north east airspace year round obtains some valuable flying experiences. And there is always room to learn other kinds of operations such as omni which is a challenging one i understand it to be . Well hopefully the company mentally toward Tprop drivers changes sometimes, because saying to someone company don't want Tprop anymore is kind of leaning toward being arrogant.
Do I have that correct? Or is there some missing information from what you volunteered here...
This is your opportunity to "revise and extend" your remarks....
Last edited by SabreDriver; 08-11-2011 at 02:00 AM.
#327
I have shiny jet syndrome
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: ELACS, FACs and SECs. Who doesn't love 'em?
Posts: 984
Now we have some commone ground and can communicate.
I agree with you 100%. But remember, Just because a company has the freedom to do whatever they want does not mean it's good practice. We are mostly given the freedom to do what we want, but there's right and wrong. And for me, saying to someone on his face that "We don't take Tprop guys" is flat out wrong.
I agree with you 100%. But remember, Just because a company has the freedom to do whatever they want does not mean it's good practice. We are mostly given the freedom to do what we want, but there's right and wrong. And for me, saying to someone on his face that "We don't take Tprop guys" is flat out wrong.
Part of your problem could be your grasp (or lack thereof) of the English language. If you speak half as bad as you write, that could explain the issues you are having.
Go to the Delta, UCal, Atlas, North American, and World boards and post the same thing and see if you get the same response as you are getting here. My bet is you do. Posting and whining on here like my two year old daughter won't help you at all.
Last edited by RJtrashPilot; 08-11-2011 at 06:13 AM.
#328
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
part of your problem could be your grasp (or lack thereof) of the english language. If you speak half as bad as you write, that could explain the issues you are having.
Go to the delta, ucal, atlas, north american, and world boards and post the same thing and see if you get the same response as you are getting here. My bet is you do. Posting and whining on here like my two year old daughter won't help you at all.
Go to the delta, ucal, atlas, north american, and world boards and post the same thing and see if you get the same response as you are getting here. My bet is you do. Posting and whining on here like my two year old daughter won't help you at all.
#329
Part of your problem could be your grasp (or lack thereof) of the English language. If you speak half as bad as you write, that could explain the issues you are having.
Go to the Delta, UCal, Atlas, North American, and World boards and post the same thing and see if you get the same response as you are getting here. My bet is you do. Posting and whining on here like my two year old daughter won't help you at all.
Go to the Delta, UCal, Atlas, North American, and World boards and post the same thing and see if you get the same response as you are getting here. My bet is you do. Posting and whining on here like my two year old daughter won't help you at all.
#330
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 66
Part of your problem could be your grasp (or lack thereof) of the English language. If you speak half as bad as you write, that could explain the issues you are having.
Go to the Delta, UCal, Atlas, North American, and World boards and post the same thing and see if you get the same response as you are getting here. My bet is you do. Posting and whining on here like my two year old daughter won't help you at all.
Go to the Delta, UCal, Atlas, North American, and World boards and post the same thing and see if you get the same response as you are getting here. My bet is you do. Posting and whining on here like my two year old daughter won't help you at all.
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