Birdsmash

Atlas gave up the AMZN flying and will not be hiring until the dust settles from that. Next year maybe? 🤔

Wdc0001

I’m curious to hear your reasoning behind taking Republic w/ the contract over Envoy? Almost everyone you talk to says to go anywhere without a contract and if you have to Republics is slightly better than SkyWest, but only by a little.

V1rotategearup

I admire the "too little, too late" addition to your screenname. Timing has been atrocious for everything lately. Good to know there are the timing misfits with just enough hours to be considered, but not enough to be studs. See you all in the regionals?

ImSoSuss

All the WOs have stopped hiring new candidates. What somebody has in class now is irrelevant. I am talking about the rest of 2025. Those people were already interviewed and hired earlier this year when the landscape was different. This guy has a job in hand right now with Omni. Anybody telling him to refuse it without any other prospects is giving horrible god aweful advice. And no, you can't "just go somewhere else" these days.

JohnBurke

The counsel to run away isn't being given altruistically, nor is it generated in the interest of those coming aboard.

Context.

Hiring is taking place. The world is a bit bigger than a few "WO" airlines.

Wdc0001

Is there a post OE time requirement before leaving? Like if I get a class date 8 months from now, would I be able to leave without retribution?

JohnBurke

You're not even on board and you're asking when you can leave? Impressive.

What kind of retribution do you want? It's not a presidential campaign. Hit squads? Secret lists? Law suits? How about a blanket party?

I ran into a kid in a class a few yeas ago who was bragging about his nine type ratings. I asked how much experience he had. Twenty-two hundred hours. Just enough to know how to open the door. Not quite enough to know where to stow his luggage. I asked how he managed nine type ratings with no experience. Turns out he would hire on, get a type, bail, and go somewhere else to collect another type. Not really a good look, or particularly honorable. It's always impressive to hear someone's plans to bail before theyre on board. A little like lining up at the gate for your next flight, while wearing a parachute, isn't it?

No retribution necessary. Just don't let the door smack you on the way out.

Wdc0001

Didn’t say I was planning on leaving. I was only asking the question since so many people here basically mandated that I find somewhere other than Omni to be at as fast as I can.

Never been one to bail from an opportunity that has been presented to me. Each place you land is only as good as your attitude you have while there.

JohnBurke

Quite so. Three people in the cockpit; one finds it the best place in the world to work, another can't stand it and finds it the worst, and the third can take it or leave it.

All three are right.

It's a pleasure to fly the trip with one of them.

Reactivity

What simulators does Omni have? Did they get moved under ATS (Airborne Training Services)?

At ABX, we no longer have priority access to "our" simulator because it was transferred to ATS. I'm pretty sure I saw a bunch of Omni crews scheduled in it last month. But all of our recurrent training is still done in that simulator. The initials and upgrades get sent to Miami or Dallas if the Wilmington simulator is booked.

As for Omni becoming ATI, it may be "just a matter of time", but that matter is likely to take a long, long time - like on a geological scale long. ABX acquired CHI almost 17 years ago. CHI merged with ATI 11 years ago. We are still quite separate and distinct with no signs of that changing, notwithstanding Bubba's proclamation (at least six years ago) of an imminent announcement that ABX would be merging with ATI to form "Air Transport Express (ATX)".