Didn't take long for all the disputed pairings to disappear
02-25-2007, 01:17 PM
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Actually, just takes a little bit of effort and preplanning!
March 07 MEM MD-11 Disputed Pairings
Or course, you'd need access to VIPS to be able to access the clickable links!
And, of course, then you'd be able to decipher the initials of the operating pilots (some of the usual suspects in there, as always!).
March 07 MEM MD-11 Disputed Pairings
Or course, you'd need access to VIPS to be able to access the clickable links!
And, of course, then you'd be able to decipher the initials of the operating pilots (some of the usual suspects in there, as always!).
02-25-2007, 01:20 PM
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02-25-2007, 01:22 PM
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) and J.F. each have 2 pairings. At least they're doing their part to keep us from having more idiot union "brothers"!
02-25-2007, 01:48 PM
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"Toss that packet in the folder, and they'll know they're being watched. No need for confrontation after showtime -- they'll get the message."
They will likely just think a SIG rep dropped it off and go on their way without a second thought. Block reps call every pilot after he voluntarily flies a DP but that has not spread the message. The thought that fellow pilots will be taking a public stand against their behavior while they work against our SIG and our dues might make future DP pilots think twice. Maybe standing around and applauding isn't the answer, but I don't think anonymous notes are either. They need to look their fellow pilots in the eye while they stab us in the back if we ever expect it to stop. Maybe the group that was going to applaud could walk over at showtime and hand them the info and then walk away without a word? These guys need to know those trips weren't in open time so they could pad their paycheck or improve their schedule. They were there because their union asked them not to be flown and everyone complied except them. Either the SIG's work is important or it isn't. If it is them we need to make a public statement to back them IMO.
They will likely just think a SIG rep dropped it off and go on their way without a second thought. Block reps call every pilot after he voluntarily flies a DP but that has not spread the message. The thought that fellow pilots will be taking a public stand against their behavior while they work against our SIG and our dues might make future DP pilots think twice. Maybe standing around and applauding isn't the answer, but I don't think anonymous notes are either. They need to look their fellow pilots in the eye while they stab us in the back if we ever expect it to stop. Maybe the group that was going to applaud could walk over at showtime and hand them the info and then walk away without a word? These guys need to know those trips weren't in open time so they could pad their paycheck or improve their schedule. They were there because their union asked them not to be flown and everyone complied except them. Either the SIG's work is important or it isn't. If it is them we need to make a public statement to back them IMO.
02-25-2007, 02:52 PM
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"Toss that packet in the folder, and they'll know they're being watched. No need for confrontation after showtime -- they'll get the message."
They will likely just think a SIG rep dropped it off and go on their way without a second thought. Block reps call every pilot after he voluntarily flies a DP but that has not spread the message. The thought that fellow pilots will be taking a public stand against their behavior while they work against our SIG and our dues might make future DP pilots think twice. Maybe standing around and applauding isn't the answer, but I don't think anonymous notes are either. They need to look their fellow pilots in the eye while they stab us in the back if we ever expect it to stop. Maybe the group that was going to applaud could walk over at showtime and hand them the info and then walk away without a word? These guys need to know those trips weren't in open time so they could pad their paycheck or improve their schedule. They were there because their union asked them not to be flown and everyone complied except them. Either the SIG's work is important or it isn't. If it is them we need to make a public statement to back them IMO.
They will likely just think a SIG rep dropped it off and go on their way without a second thought. Block reps call every pilot after he voluntarily flies a DP but that has not spread the message. The thought that fellow pilots will be taking a public stand against their behavior while they work against our SIG and our dues might make future DP pilots think twice. Maybe standing around and applauding isn't the answer, but I don't think anonymous notes are either. They need to look their fellow pilots in the eye while they stab us in the back if we ever expect it to stop. Maybe the group that was going to applaud could walk over at showtime and hand them the info and then walk away without a word? These guys need to know those trips weren't in open time so they could pad their paycheck or improve their schedule. They were there because their union asked them not to be flown and everyone complied except them. Either the SIG's work is important or it isn't. If it is them we need to make a public statement to back them IMO.
02-25-2007, 04:48 PM
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Actually, just takes a little bit of effort and preplanning!
March 07 MEM MD-11 Disputed Pairings
Or course, you'd need access to VIPS to be able to access the clickable links! And, of course, then you'd be able to decipher the initials of the operating pilots (some of the usual suspects in there, as always!).
March 07 MEM MD-11 Disputed Pairings
Or course, you'd need access to VIPS to be able to access the clickable links!
And, of course, then you'd be able to decipher the initials of the operating pilots (some of the usual suspects in there, as always!).Consecutive employee numbers, what are the chances of that?
02-25-2007, 06:42 PM
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Updated for the Airbus bubbas!
March 07 Disputed Pairings MEM MD-11 and Airbus
Plenty of repeat offenders in there. One FO with 5 pairings!
Plenty of repeat offenders in there. One FO with 5 pairings!
02-25-2007, 08:06 PM
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The highest starting salary in the industry. The prettiest girl in the bar. Biggest di)k in the room. If you have to qualify it it aint saying much.
50K is nice but it is not happening, figure two to four months at 2K a month and RLG after IOE the only way to reach 50K is to fly extra and I thought the point of this thread was to discourage that.
50K is nice but it is not happening, figure two to four months at 2K a month and RLG after IOE the only way to reach 50K is to fly extra and I thought the point of this thread was to discourage that.
Also, you said living wage. Even at 43K (2 months at 2k, 7 months at 68 hr, and 3 mo at 85 hr {contract mins, and in 8 years, I have never seen RLG on any jet at min}) you are making more than 60% of the population.
02-25-2007, 09:14 PM
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March 07 Disputed Pairings MEM MD-11 and Airbus
Plenty of repeat offenders in there. One FO with 5 pairings!
Plenty of repeat offenders in there. One FO with 5 pairings!
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