Didn't take long for all the disputed pairings to disappear
02-26-2007, 06:41 PM
#141
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String him up!!
02-26-2007, 06:42 PM
#142
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Saying that I just don't get it, is an easy way of avoiding an opinion you just don't like!!! The Sig ltr of Agreement doesn't say that only reserves should fly disputed prgs. Not flying DP prgs is a show of support for the SIG...similar to buying a hat and wearing a lanyard was a show of support for the Negotiating committee.
Each individual has a right to decide. Your choice doesn't make you anything other than a dues paying member if you are. If you didn't buy a hat, how can you critize someone else's choice. Reread the ltr of agreement, many statements in this thread are simply false!!!
02-26-2007, 06:45 PM
#143
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Hmmm, please reference the post where someone was accused of being a scab for flying a disputed pairing. Now, if you're refering to 2 individuals that happen to be on some scab list somewhere, that is for descisions they "individually" made at a previous employer!
02-26-2007, 06:49 PM
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I think it's worse. It's the "I pay my dues so "THEY" should get me my contract." "THEY" being our union.
We are just going to be spinning our wheels at this outfit, until everyone figures out that "THEY" is really "US".
We've come a long way. But, I'm afraid we have much, much farther to go.
We are just going to be spinning our wheels at this outfit, until everyone figures out that "THEY" is really "US".
We've come a long way. But, I'm afraid we have much, much farther to go.
02-26-2007, 06:49 PM
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I believe that the company has given VTOs DPs without a trip specific request...it might have been a custom line, not a VTO, I'm not sure. I think we grieved it...anybody know the outcome?
02-26-2007, 07:04 PM
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Second point If you are flying MEM-ONT-MEM nights, (ONT-IND-PHX is a better example) i'll assume you are more on the junior side. By the way ONT-PHX-IND was disputed a few years back but pilots kept picking it up cuz it had a DH on it. Wah Lah it is now etched in stone.
I know the SIG tries to fix things and they have been some what successful as of late, however, in reality they have no power to change a pairing if the company does not want it changed. All they can do is lobby. That my friend is the just the way it is.
I do not fly these trips. They are crappy trips.
02-26-2007, 07:07 PM
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WE are the SIG's power.
"WE" were the power that turned off the optimizer the last time.
Pull your heads out of your rear ends!!
PLEASE!!!
"WE" were the power that turned off the optimizer the last time.
Pull your heads out of your rear ends!!
PLEASE!!!
02-26-2007, 07:19 PM
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A Different Opinion
We are all independent contractors who have come together and formed a union for the legal protections that it provides... that doesn't not mean that we have given up our right to individual thought or a differing opinion from conventional wisdom. It also doesn't mean our leadership is always right, no matter how well intentioned (i.e. objecting to Capt RFO)!! The Sig ltr is a good document and I agree with it as written..The additional unwritten action is unnecessary IMHO. We are not arm twisters. I show my support everyday by wearing my ALPA pin...no hat or lanyard!!!
02-26-2007, 07:24 PM
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There you have it.
I rest my case.
I rest my case.
Last edited by Busboy; 02-26-2007 at 07:36 PM.
02-26-2007, 07:26 PM
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Saying that I just don't get it, is an easy way of avoiding an opinion you just don't like!!! The Sig ltr of Agreement doesn't say that only reserves should fly disputed prgs. Not flying DP prgs is a show of support for the SIG...similar to buying a hat and wearing a lanyard was a show of support for the Negotiating committee. Each individual has a right to decide. Your choice doesn't make you anything other than a dues paying member if you are. If you didn't buy a hat, how can you critize someone else's choice. Reread the ltr of agreement, many statements in this thread are simply false!!!
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