Didn't take long for all the disputed pairings to disappear
02-26-2007, 07:52 AM
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02-26-2007, 08:15 AM
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I certainly agree with you and that was the point, should be paid based on what you do, not what everyone else makes.
Jetjok
Girlfriend needs a new pair of shoes was sarcasm and I apologize if it offended you. Because I am a sensitive guy. That is why I support changing age 60 when it can't do me any good.
Yes I know we all had opportunities to go elsewhere and make less. Yes I know that the new guys aren't real members and should be spit on before we buy them dinner (sarcasm). My point, it would cost us very little to treat them like one of us and make their first 2-3 years at Fedex a little more pleasant. A side bonus is there may be less guys trolling the open time screen (back to the thread) looking to knock off a little of the Visa payment. Then the company would have to man the acft more to our liking. Sorry if us postal guys have made life bad for you with our high expectations.
Please note I am not complaining about the numbers. I am simply agreeing with you it would be nice to pay them more and pointing out it is in our power to do so.
LAG
I certainly agree with you and that was the point, should be paid based on what you do, not what everyone else makes.
Jetjok
Girlfriend needs a new pair of shoes was sarcasm and I apologize if it offended you. Because I am a sensitive guy. That is why I support changing age 60 when it can't do me any good.
Yes I know we all had opportunities to go elsewhere and make less. Yes I know that the new guys aren't real members and should be spit on before we buy them dinner (sarcasm). My point, it would cost us very little to treat them like one of us and make their first 2-3 years at Fedex a little more pleasant. A side bonus is there may be less guys trolling the open time screen (back to the thread) looking to knock off a little of the Visa payment. Then the company would have to man the acft more to our liking. Sorry if us postal guys have made life bad for you with our high expectations.
Please note I am not complaining about the numbers. I am simply agreeing with you it would be nice to pay them more and pointing out it is in our power to do so.
LAG
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02-26-2007, 08:46 AM
#93
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I'm a "postal hire," and it took me three years to get off the panel, and it will take me ~8 to 9 years to make narrow-body captain at 100% due to the raising of the age limit.
I know things were bad in the past, particularly right after T-Day (guys like Jetjok). But am I really screaming up the totem pole? Remember that most guys are like me - in their late thirties/early forties when they get here, with ~20 years of flying under their belt already.....
I know things were bad in the past, particularly right after T-Day (guys like Jetjok). But am I really screaming up the totem pole? Remember that most guys are like me - in their late thirties/early forties when they get here, with ~20 years of flying under their belt already.....
02-26-2007, 08:47 AM
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So we pay them like that because we can? Because it was good enough for me it is good enough for you? Builds character? Wide body captain needs a new pair of shoes for his girlfriend? Thank you sir may I have another?
Why start them in the hole where the have to spend the next three years recovering? Nobody likes B scale but it is OK to have a one year D- scale (C- at Fed)?
Any accountants out there? What is more important an extra 10K while you are living on credit cards or 20K ten years down the road when your paying off the the second Harley?
All's I'm saying is make the new guys appreciate the union more from day one. Then the disputed pairing E Mail will mean more.
Our Wide Body capts were making more than 95% of the population did they not deserve a raise last contract?
Why start them in the hole where the have to spend the next three years recovering? Nobody likes B scale but it is OK to have a one year D- scale (C- at Fed)?
Any accountants out there? What is more important an extra 10K while you are living on credit cards or 20K ten years down the road when your paying off the the second Harley?
All's I'm saying is make the new guys appreciate the union more from day one. Then the disputed pairing E Mail will mean more.
Our Wide Body capts were making more than 95% of the population did they not deserve a raise last contract?
I like FDX and I like my Mec, so I guess I shouldn't point out where things could be better. Or if I do comment (with quotes) I should take 1 line out of context so the meaning is lost.
LAG << also appreciates what he has and the work the union does especially for no account junior guys>>
LAG << also appreciates what he has and the work the union does especially for no account junior guys>>
Seems like you think the MEC should do better then you'll listen to the emails....
Past....
02-26-2007, 08:49 AM
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Pay them more. Not treat them like the junior members they are. Lets face it the JR guy is going to fly the DP on reserve. And I have never knowingly flown a disputed pairing. I have called in fatigued on what I thought should have been one. And yes it is a fact of life you listen better to an organization that treats you better. My first year was about keeping my nose clean and paying the bills everything else was chatter.
Lag
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02-26-2007, 09:21 AM
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I guess part of the rub is that the majority of guys who have been here from before the first Post Office contract, look at the opportunities that are now available (somewhat through our hard work and dedication) and wonder why someone would get here, knowing the numbers, and then complain about the them.
02-26-2007, 09:47 AM
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It isn't right to publish that list of pilots flying disputed pairing, since you won't always have all the facts and info. Same thing happened last year with someone posting guys they said were flying draft during our contract negociations. the lists weren't correct!! And neither is this one. I know one of the f/o's that is listed and they were assigned that disputed pairing on a VTO line without asking for it! And the company can't do that. It is being greived right now...
So maybe we shouldn't make a list at all, since we won't know all the details, and it isn't right to drag a buddy's name thru the mud.
So maybe we shouldn't make a list at all, since we won't know all the details, and it isn't right to drag a buddy's name thru the mud.
02-26-2007, 10:18 AM
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Like everything else, your buddy is guilty until proven innocent. This is FedEx--not the Supreme Court.
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