ABX Air Hiring
04-24-2016, 01:47 PM
#152
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: Enjoying the show
Posts: 296
Reading and fishing here if it will be a good move in trusting my future in ABX chances to make it I gotta admit there is nothing attracting about this company.
A pilot group with a bad attitude, which hasn't learnt anything from the aviation's turmoil in the last 15 years.
Company ( employees ) with a 1990s mentality.
One company, two pilot groups, one overpaid and one underpaid. That's weird and probably will not end up well.
If Amazon goes away, the company is doomed and every new hired plus the recalled ones will be out of his/her job. Everything else is just empty words.
The company doesn't give a crap about new employees. Crappy pay, until second year pay, and very willing to get rid off anybody considered cheap labor. I bet there will be a lot of training wash outs.
New people are not welcomed by the existent pilot group.
ABX looks like a company ready to die but somehow, by some kind of a miracle, is still kicking.
Regarding Amazon?!..... Same as Blockbuster. A lot of investment ( because some Amazon hire up has an " extraordinary " idea which if it doesn't work out everything will go to crap ) but when someting or someone with a another popular idea will come along, no more Amazon.
Bottom line, ATSG ain't Fedex, UPS or Atlas ( companies which have a business plan )
A pilot group with a bad attitude, which hasn't learnt anything from the aviation's turmoil in the last 15 years.
Company ( employees ) with a 1990s mentality.
One company, two pilot groups, one overpaid and one underpaid. That's weird and probably will not end up well.
If Amazon goes away, the company is doomed and every new hired plus the recalled ones will be out of his/her job. Everything else is just empty words.
The company doesn't give a crap about new employees. Crappy pay, until second year pay, and very willing to get rid off anybody considered cheap labor. I bet there will be a lot of training wash outs.
New people are not welcomed by the existent pilot group.
ABX looks like a company ready to die but somehow, by some kind of a miracle, is still kicking.
Regarding Amazon?!..... Same as Blockbuster. A lot of investment ( because some Amazon hire up has an " extraordinary " idea which if it doesn't work out everything will go to crap ) but when someting or someone with a another popular idea will come along, no more Amazon.
Bottom line, ATSG ain't Fedex, UPS or Atlas ( companies which have a business plan )
We all pick what ever company best suites us and sometimes don't even have the choice. Sometimes you just go with the first class date wherever. Sometimes we just go with the flow.
I've seen a lot thru the years and you don't have to look too far from this website to see crappy personalities at every carrier. Hint, your not going to get away from that. Pilots are our own worst enemies and management loves it.
Some items I noticed that draw me to ABX. Most of the top half of the list here is getting on in years. They are not going to be at ABX too much longer. If the Amazon thing doesn't work out, DHL flying is not going away and I don't see the new hires at ABX not being employed should the Amazon plan fail in 5 years.
On a side note, I've meet and flown the owner of Amazon. He's no dummy. If he sees something here, it may very well work. And that's really why I'm seriously pursuing this. To be at the beginning of a movement would be fantastic.
In the end, you have to choose what's best for you and your family. Some of us have many options on the table and some don't. Take what you can, do your best and live your life.
04-24-2016, 02:09 PM
#153
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 49
After meeting some that work here at ABX, all I really saw was a sense of pride. A once very large company, broken down and has survived. Now with a second chance to be great again.
We all pick what ever company best suites us and sometimes don't even have the choice. Sometimes you just go with the first class date wherever. Sometimes we just go with the flow.
I've seen a lot thru the years and you don't have to look too far from this website to see crappy personalities at every carrier. Hint, your not going to get away from that. Pilots are our own worst enemies and management loves it.
Some items I noticed that draw me to ABX. Most of the top half of the list here is getting on in years. They are not going to be at ABX too much longer. If the Amazon thing doesn't work out, DHL flying is not going away and I don't see the new hires at ABX not being employed should the Amazon plan fail in 5 years.
On a side note, I've meet and flown the owner of Amazon. He's no dummy. If he sees something here, it may very well work. And that's really why I'm seriously pursuing this. To be at the beginning of a movement would be fantastic.
In the end, you have to choose what's best for you and your family. Some of us have many options on the table and some don't. Take what you can, do your best and live your life.
We all pick what ever company best suites us and sometimes don't even have the choice. Sometimes you just go with the first class date wherever. Sometimes we just go with the flow.
I've seen a lot thru the years and you don't have to look too far from this website to see crappy personalities at every carrier. Hint, your not going to get away from that. Pilots are our own worst enemies and management loves it.
Some items I noticed that draw me to ABX. Most of the top half of the list here is getting on in years. They are not going to be at ABX too much longer. If the Amazon thing doesn't work out, DHL flying is not going away and I don't see the new hires at ABX not being employed should the Amazon plan fail in 5 years.
On a side note, I've meet and flown the owner of Amazon. He's no dummy. If he sees something here, it may very well work. And that's really why I'm seriously pursuing this. To be at the beginning of a movement would be fantastic.
In the end, you have to choose what's best for you and your family. Some of us have many options on the table and some don't. Take what you can, do your best and live your life.
04-24-2016, 03:03 PM
#154
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: CH2T Worst plane ever
Posts: 676
04-24-2016, 04:08 PM
#157
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: Enjoying the show
Posts: 296
04-24-2016, 05:26 PM
#158
El Capitan
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 615
Reading and fishing here if it will be a good move in trusting my future in ABX chances to make it I gotta admit there is nothing attracting about this company.
A pilot group with a bad attitude, which hasn't learnt anything from the aviation's turmoil in the last 15 years.
Company ( employees ) with a 1990s mentality.
One company, two pilot groups, one overpaid and one underpaid. That's weird and probably will not end up well.
If Amazon goes away, the company is doomed and every new hired plus the recalled ones will be out of his/her job. Everything else is just empty words.
The company doesn't give a crap about new employees. Crappy pay, until second year pay, and very willing to get rid off anybody considered cheap labor. I bet there will be a lot of training wash outs.
New people are not welcomed by the existent pilot group.
ABX looks like a company ready to die but somehow, by some kind of a miracle, is still kicking.
Regarding Amazon?!..... Same as Blockbuster. A lot of investment ( because some Amazon hire up has an " extraordinary " idea which if it doesn't work out everything will go to crap ) but when someting or someone with a another popular idea will come along, no more Amazon.
Bottom line, ATSG ain't Fedex, UPS or Atlas ( companies which have a business plan )
A pilot group with a bad attitude, which hasn't learnt anything from the aviation's turmoil in the last 15 years.
Company ( employees ) with a 1990s mentality.
One company, two pilot groups, one overpaid and one underpaid. That's weird and probably will not end up well.
If Amazon goes away, the company is doomed and every new hired plus the recalled ones will be out of his/her job. Everything else is just empty words.
The company doesn't give a crap about new employees. Crappy pay, until second year pay, and very willing to get rid off anybody considered cheap labor. I bet there will be a lot of training wash outs.
New people are not welcomed by the existent pilot group.
ABX looks like a company ready to die but somehow, by some kind of a miracle, is still kicking.
Regarding Amazon?!..... Same as Blockbuster. A lot of investment ( because some Amazon hire up has an " extraordinary " idea which if it doesn't work out everything will go to crap ) but when someting or someone with a another popular idea will come along, no more Amazon.
Bottom line, ATSG ain't Fedex, UPS or Atlas ( companies which have a business plan )
I would love it if ABX hired a couple of hundred pilots!
04-25-2016, 04:50 AM
#160
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 47
Thanks for sharing. I would love to see an actual schedule. When you're bidding, do you bid on days off only, or do you get to bid on already built lines? Also, dumb question: If you work 17 days in a row, do you still get a couple of days off in between? (I'm thinking about the 6x1 FAA rule....)
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