ABX Air Hiring
04-21-2016, 02:02 PM
#111
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 292
So, I'll try this once more and this time I'll copy it in case the internet fails again. It will be shorter this time though as I'm losing my motivation to type on this iPad. Lol
Started off collecting your documents then bring you into the room. There, you will meet 3 individuals from HR and 1 from the flight department. They are all very nice and the whole session starts off with them saying that this process is new to them as well.
The feeling you get is that they are there to get to know you, your personality and your past. What you expect out of the future, etc... There are no tech questions and everything is TMAAT. A lot of TMAAT. I've been flying professionally for over 20 years. Mostly corp/135. I found it difficult to come up with a lot of answers for what they asked simply because I was very close friends with those who I flew with. So no drama. Also the planes I've flown have been all top notch, so no real safety issues to talk about.
I was able to come up with a few, thankfully and feel I answered well. You will get asked, "Why ABX and not a major?". I gave my reason. Not the normal career path choices and no degree were mine. I don't lie.
After getting to know you and your goals they bring you back out to the lobby. You wait there and if choosen to do the sim, they bring you there. You are given the profile to study for a few min before the check airman comes in and basically teaches you what's on the paper they gave you to study.
This sim portion is to see if your trainable and have instrument skills. That's it. I flew the DC8. WOW, that thing is old and does not turn well, but pretty cool non the less. Nothing happens fast in it. You have to sit close to the yolk to see the HSI. Amazing that people flew that thing on a regular basis. It was pretty fun to tell the truth. Like a mans plane!
The profile is Take Off, Steep Turns, Hold, VOR App to a miss to an ILS to land. Your in the right seat and the check airman in the left running the sim as well. Autopilot on twice just for briefing approaches. Everything else was raw data.
I was told I did a great job, sent to pee in a cup and waiting to hear back.
Started off collecting your documents then bring you into the room. There, you will meet 3 individuals from HR and 1 from the flight department. They are all very nice and the whole session starts off with them saying that this process is new to them as well.
The feeling you get is that they are there to get to know you, your personality and your past. What you expect out of the future, etc... There are no tech questions and everything is TMAAT. A lot of TMAAT. I've been flying professionally for over 20 years. Mostly corp/135. I found it difficult to come up with a lot of answers for what they asked simply because I was very close friends with those who I flew with. So no drama. Also the planes I've flown have been all top notch, so no real safety issues to talk about.
I was able to come up with a few, thankfully and feel I answered well. You will get asked, "Why ABX and not a major?". I gave my reason. Not the normal career path choices and no degree were mine. I don't lie.
After getting to know you and your goals they bring you back out to the lobby. You wait there and if choosen to do the sim, they bring you there. You are given the profile to study for a few min before the check airman comes in and basically teaches you what's on the paper they gave you to study.
This sim portion is to see if your trainable and have instrument skills. That's it. I flew the DC8. WOW, that thing is old and does not turn well, but pretty cool non the less. Nothing happens fast in it. You have to sit close to the yolk to see the HSI. Amazing that people flew that thing on a regular basis. It was pretty fun to tell the truth. Like a mans plane!
The profile is Take Off, Steep Turns, Hold, VOR App to a miss to an ILS to land. Your in the right seat and the check airman in the left running the sim as well. Autopilot on twice just for briefing approaches. Everything else was raw data.
I was told I did a great job, sent to pee in a cup and waiting to hear back.
04-22-2016, 08:58 AM
#116
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 492
Interviewed today. Great company, great folks. I'm not looking to go to the passenger airlines, this is the only place I applied. Sorry I hurt everyones feelings about Mexico city. I understand an airplane being.hard to fly, I just find it hard to believe that shooting an ILS into mmmx is any different than shooting an ILS into Denver but I could.be wrong.
Anyways, hr part was relaxed and it was 2 hr types and an aviation guy. Lots of tmaat questions. I was totally honest about pay, schedules, mistakes I have made in the past. Thought maybe I was too relaxed and at one point I thought I could be blowing this with my easy demeanor. I think they want.to hire everyone. I was invited to the sim. Dc8. It was fun to fly. Takeoff, steep turns, hold, vor into 22r kiln, missed, ILS 22r kiln. I only had about 15 minutes to look at the 8 pages of notes they gave me so I didn't remember any of the proper callouts or profiles. Hell, I couldn't remember if it was flaps 12 or flaps 18. I just flew and used my procedures from my job because while trying to tame that dc8 my mind couldn't recall anything I had read in the briefing room. Instructor said I did well but who really knows what he thought. Things I know he liked: my takeoff briefing, my approach briefing, and my holding brief. Remember to report entering the hold and remember to slow to holding speed (I did). I was chasing.the needles on the ILS and when I broke out I was off center and felt like a soup sandwich trying to line up visually so I called a missed and he seemed happy about that. I wish I could remember the profiles but I just can't. Knowing.the profiles before hand would have helped me. I did the drug screen. I'm a military guy, no jet time, 7500 hours, not available until August. Other guy I talked to was corporate. The address Tracy gave me for the interview was not right. go into the big glass building. I was looking for "hunter drive" which caused me momentary panic. Sit close to the yoke to see the hsi. I was too far back and had to lean forward to see the needle.
Anyways, hr part was relaxed and it was 2 hr types and an aviation guy. Lots of tmaat questions. I was totally honest about pay, schedules, mistakes I have made in the past. Thought maybe I was too relaxed and at one point I thought I could be blowing this with my easy demeanor. I think they want.to hire everyone. I was invited to the sim. Dc8. It was fun to fly. Takeoff, steep turns, hold, vor into 22r kiln, missed, ILS 22r kiln. I only had about 15 minutes to look at the 8 pages of notes they gave me so I didn't remember any of the proper callouts or profiles. Hell, I couldn't remember if it was flaps 12 or flaps 18. I just flew and used my procedures from my job because while trying to tame that dc8 my mind couldn't recall anything I had read in the briefing room. Instructor said I did well but who really knows what he thought. Things I know he liked: my takeoff briefing, my approach briefing, and my holding brief. Remember to report entering the hold and remember to slow to holding speed (I did). I was chasing.the needles on the ILS and when I broke out I was off center and felt like a soup sandwich trying to line up visually so I called a missed and he seemed happy about that. I wish I could remember the profiles but I just can't. Knowing.the profiles before hand would have helped me. I did the drug screen. I'm a military guy, no jet time, 7500 hours, not available until August. Other guy I talked to was corporate. The address Tracy gave me for the interview was not right. go into the big glass building. I was looking for "hunter drive" which caused me momentary panic. Sit close to the yoke to see the hsi. I was too far back and had to lean forward to see the needle.
Last edited by sherpster; 04-22-2016 at 09:19 AM.
04-22-2016, 10:06 AM
#119
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: Enjoying the show
Posts: 296
Sounds like you did a good job! Now imagine flying that same sim doing a three engine CAT II, hand flown approach while using that crappy Bendix EFIS F/D and at the same time spewing a litany of "special briefing items" that they made you recite verbatim from memory. Oh, your tolerance was just 1/3 of a dot.
Yea, that does not sound like fun..
04-22-2016, 10:11 AM
#120
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: Enjoying the show
Posts: 296
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