motorclutch

Piece of cake.......unless you are a scab. Most of us carry the master scab lust for reference.

ME109G

Don't worry. I didn't take it personally. As you said, that's what too much of night flying can do you. I take it as a lesson to do not become one.

I had my original post just to get an idea of an ABX pilot living outside CVG lifestyle. I am sure you guys have people commuting. I was just trying to figure out how difficult that is. Such as how difficult or worthy is to get a crash pad, rent or maybe due to the schedule there is no need for one. Although I think you guys have no idea how your schedule is going to be when Amazon kicks in.

motorclutch

Seriously commuting isn't hard. Typically I commute in the night of my trip. We have reciprocal jumpseats with everyone, as well as the option for our jumpseats. You will be on the road so much as a reserve , you won't have to get that many hotel rooms. (Trust Me). As for ILN as a base, I see that going very senior.

ME109G

Thank you my friend. The position was offered to me but I'm thinking to turn the offer down because:
1. Home base is huge for me. At least worth an extra 30000 an year
2. Only night flying seems to be unhealthy to people and creates bad moods to pilots, even unfriendly ( proved here )
3. You guys have spent too much time together, not hiring for 10 years or so, and got used to the smell of your own socks. That makes you guys grumpy and not friendly to new smells ( proved here )
4. It seems there is a continuous fight between ABX and ATI
5. If Amazon business goes away then all the recalled pilots and all the new hired will be back in streets.

I might be wrong and only time will tell.

Kougarok

You could also end up being number one the seniority list if you're youngish. It's all a crapshoot and night flying isn't for everyone. I fly with Motorclutch a bit and he's actually easy to get along with. He just comes off as grumpy on here.

One of our line pilots concerns is all the new guys. We go into some challenging airports like Mexico City and Guatamala City. All of the FO's have 15+ years with the company except just a couple of guys. We're all pretty comfortable with each other. On the upside 3/4 of the FO's want to be captain and the current junior captains want to senior captains.

I wouldn't put too much stock into home basing. Having commuted for 20 years It's for sure not worth $30,000.

motorclutch

[QUOTE=Kougarok;2114138]You could also end up being number one the seniority list if you're youngish. It's all a crapshoot and night flying isn't for everyone. I fly with Motorclutch a bit and he's actually easy to get along with. He just comes off as grumpy on here.

One of our line pilots concerns is all the new guys. We go into some challenging airports like Mexico City and Guatamala City. All of the FO's have 15+ years with the company except just a couple of guys. We're all pretty comfortable with each other. On the upside 3/4 of the FO's want to be captain and the current junior captains want to senior captains.

I wouldn't put too much stock into home basing. Having commuted for 20 years It's for sure not worth $30,000.

Kougarok is spot on. By your logic he's made an extra $600,000 by his ability to jumpseat. That kind of money can buy a lot of first class tickets. To another point: there is a huge training curve about to happen with new hires. Little if any have the standardization or skills of this pilot group ......so stand by for a wake up call if you come to ABX.

sherpster

Mexico City is a challenge? whatever.

motorclutch

Looks like old Sherpster, the guy who doesn't understand domicile concepts, has the Mexico City flying already figured out. Lol. Hey Sherpster, hell son we will hire you directly into our standards department.

ME109G

Thx Kougarok. Not afraid of jumpseating. Did it for many years. Afraid of chasing hotels in CVG, trying to find a deal or an affordable room, when stuck there for many days. Plus 8 weeks of training, paying for your own hotel, sucks.

WTFover

Atlas does.