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The fact is, they could program the system to handle excess and vacancies at the same time, if they wanted to. It's simply a matter of pluses and minuses; 0's and 1's. For crying out loud, they've had since 2008 to get it done.

Remember the old adage, "follow the money?" When it comes to what's important to the Company, follow the programming. They'll get 'er done when it's important to them.

Gunter

No, I'm not saying I know what will be asked for by our NC/MEC. But "they" are not our union, we are. If we want things we should tell our leadership we want them. I don't care about the details of any company concessionary offer as they should all be thrown into the trash bin upon receipt. They should be worried about my answers! A huge NO vote is building if the next TA fails to impress.

BTW - The company never offers what should be paid or what they are willing to pay.

Gunter

You are living in the early 2000's. I think management is too.

golfandfly

Sounds great! You've mentioned you want a chance to work here. You'd really like it if you could make wide body pay when you get hired in the 757.

FYI, it's not going to happen. This is a high cost item, and if the negotiators were able to secure a single pay rate, we'd most likely give up something else. A large percentage of our pilots (and definitely the most senior) have no interest in a single pay rate.

Almost all airlines have multiple pay rates. If this is a big ticket item for you, I'd recommend UPS. I seriously doubt that you will ever see a single rate at Fedex. Just my opinion though.

I am for keeping our retirement system (A and B plan) the same for all of us. This includes new hires. Of course, I'd like to see improvements in these plans, but I think you will eventually have serious problems with the "haves and have nots". I doubt you will see that happen here, but again, it's only an opinion.

StarClipper

This have nothing to do with me, I'm very comfortable with my job now. Like every other company it has it plus and minus. It just seems like the best thing that can happen to you guys with all the changes. Your senior guys are being selfish if they won't agree to it. And yes I have considered FedEx and now the Legacy carriers

Sum Ting Wong

Does your 'comfortable job' (carrier where you are employed) have a single pay rate? i.e., RJ and turboprop scale?

golfandfly

I'm glad that you've got it all figured out for us. Awesome. You seem to be stuck on a single pay rate and that would be best for Fedex. I very seriously doubt that it will happen.

Most of us believe that a contract will be worth a certain amount. The real question is, how will that money be spent? Raises, retirement, scheduling, etc? I doubt you will see that very large amount spent in this area, particularly when it has a minimal effect on the top 50%. If you haven't figured this out, I doubt you will see a contract that doesn't favor the senior pilots.

You say you are comfortable where you are working, yet spend quite a bit of time on this forum concerned with our hiring and payrates. Then you say you are looking hard at legacies. Are you comfortable where you are or not? You do know that none of the legacy airlines have a single payrate, right?

Again, you may want to focus on UPS. Maybe you can pass your desires to them so they can negotiate a contact that is acceptable for you...

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This interwebs thing is amazing.

StarClipper

Being comfortable does mean that I won't leave for a better career. And it's not personal but you just mentioned that your senior guys won't go for it. How about you? Would you like to see a single pay rate? If not why if yes why?

StarClipper

Sum Ting is really Wong with you