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#21
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
Yeah, probably just people in their first year, and do we even have any of those? But, as Gnaw said, everyone can get around the income limits with a Backdoor Roth (you just open up a traditional IRA and convert the next day. You can do it on Vanguard and follow your FedEx 401K on the same page). Only thing is, if you have other IRA's, it gets complicated and can be a costly mistake. Easy if you only have your 401K, other Roths, and no other IRA's. Bogleheads is an awesome forum.
Can you give some advice on what exactly a FedEx pilot should be doing as far as investments ... post-tax pre-tax etc.etc. I admit, I am a financial illiterate and need some coaching.
I have money in our two retirement funds through FedEx. I have a separate 401K and Roth IRA. I contribute the max in the Roth each year. The separate 401K is from another company. And I contribute 15% pay up until the yearly limit into the FedEx/Vanguard accounts.
Originally Posted by busdriver12
Yeah, probably just people in their first year, and do we even have any of those? But, as Gnaw said, everyone can get around the income limits with a Backdoor Roth (you just open up a traditional IRA and convert the next day. You can do it on Vanguard and follow your FedEx 401K on the same page). Only thing is, if you have other IRA's, it gets complicated and can be a costly mistake. Easy if you only have your 401K, other Roths, and no other IRA's. Bogleheads is an awesome forum.
Can you give some advice on what exactly a FedEx pilot should be doing as far as investments ... post-tax pre-tax etc.etc. I admit, I am a financial illiterate and need some coaching.
I have money in our two retirement funds through FedEx. I have a separate 401K and Roth IRA. I contribute the max in the Roth each year. The separate 401K is from another company. And I contribute 15% pay up until the yearly limit into the FedEx/Vanguard accounts.
If, for example, they match 5% and you hit the max $17,500 only 6 moths into the year then you only get 5% matched of what you've earned YTD, that's all. If you spread it out over the year you get matched 5% of your entire annual income.
#22
I'm not sure if your company matches a percentage of your 401k contributions but if so make sure you spread out your contributions evenly throughout the year. This way you won't hit the $17,500 max too soon preventing you from contributing any more and causing you to miss out on the 401k match for the rest of the year.
If, for example, they match 5% and you hit the max $17,500 only 6 moths into the year then you only get 5% matched of what you've earned YTD, that's all. If you spread it out over the year you get matched 5% of your entire annual income.
If, for example, they match 5% and you hit the max $17,500 only 6 moths into the year then you only get 5% matched of what you've earned YTD, that's all. If you spread it out over the year you get matched 5% of your entire annual income.
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As I am sure you are aware.... a retirement package is the combination of A plan, B plan and 401k(matching or not). Most airlines are some combo of the above. So although the matching may be small, it is more than made up in other areas. For example, if your airline matches 50% of the 401k(8750 max) the 7% B fund is still a much better return at his airline beginning year 2(which by the way most companies don't let you participate the first year anyway). So call the matching pathetic, but I contend his retirement package exceeds almost all others currently.
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
That's pathetic.
As I am sure you are aware.... a retirement package is the combination of A plan, B plan and 401k(matching or not). Most airlines are some combo of the above. So although the matching may be small, it is more than made up in other areas. For example, if your airline matches 50% of the 401k(8750 max) the 7% B fund is still a much better return at his airline beginning year 2(which by the way most companies don't let you participate the first year anyway). So call the matching pathetic, but I contend his retirement package exceeds almost all others currently.
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
That's pathetic.
As I am sure you are aware.... a retirement package is the combination of A plan, B plan and 401k(matching or not). Most airlines are some combo of the above. So although the matching may be small, it is more than made up in other areas. For example, if your airline matches 50% of the 401k(8750 max) the 7% B fund is still a much better return at his airline beginning year 2(which by the way most companies don't let you participate the first year anyway). So call the matching pathetic, but I contend his retirement package exceeds almost all others currently.
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I respectfully disagree. Your example of 401k matching doesn't make any sense. I'm not sure you understand it correctly. As for what is a better return, don't forget that you get to invest your money in your 401k and watch it grow over a long period of time. Consider how valuable those employer matches are when you multiply them by 1.08 (adding 8%) as many times as the number of years you have left until retirement. I don't know what the fedex pension is but most pensions I've heard of are a percentage of you're income for the rest of your life based on years of service and some other factors. Without knowing what the pension is at fedex I can't say for sure what is better but I will say that I've saved over 1 million dollars for retirement in the last 20 months working at a regional airline (disclaimer: based on 8% hypothetical market growth over 35-40 years). If you are aggressive with your 401k, IRA and have a pension, then more power to you. If you slack on the 401k because you are counting on a pension, that could potentially backfire. If you took full advantage of 401k employer match and had it invested well your whole career you would make more just off market gains off that money each year in retirement than you would get form your pension, if you had decent matching.
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If we put all this in plain English, at FedEx, this is how it works:
They only match $500 into your 401K, as far as matching funds.
Our A fund will pay us $130K/year if we retire at age 60 with 25 years of service (fairly common here), until we die.
Our B fund pays 7% of our salary into our 401K. So if I make 300K this year, they will put 21K into my 401K.
I don't know how this compares with other non-bankrupt companies, but I do hope our new contract (if we ever get one) increases our A fund somewhat.
They only match $500 into your 401K, as far as matching funds.
Our A fund will pay us $130K/year if we retire at age 60 with 25 years of service (fairly common here), until we die.
Our B fund pays 7% of our salary into our 401K. So if I make 300K this year, they will put 21K into my 401K.
I don't know how this compares with other non-bankrupt companies, but I do hope our new contract (if we ever get one) increases our A fund somewhat.
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7% up to 260...on B fund I believe...
If we put all this in plain English, at FedEx, this is how it works:
They only match $500 into your 401K, as far as matching funds.
Our A fund will pay us $130K/year if we retire at age 60 with 25 years of service (fairly common here), until we die.
Our B fund pays 7% of our salary into our 401K. So if I make 300K this year, they will put 21K into my 401K.
I don't know how this compares with other non-bankrupt companies, but I do hope our new contract (if we ever get one) increases our A fund somewhat.
They only match $500 into your 401K, as far as matching funds.
Our A fund will pay us $130K/year if we retire at age 60 with 25 years of service (fairly common here), until we die.
Our B fund pays 7% of our salary into our 401K. So if I make 300K this year, they will put 21K into my 401K.
I don't know how this compares with other non-bankrupt companies, but I do hope our new contract (if we ever get one) increases our A fund somewhat.
i think that is the max...if I'm wrong, someone correct me.
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