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Old 05-06-2014, 07:24 PM
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Yeah, I know --- it's a different cost center, which our SCP simply doesn't care about

They really don't understand how much we could help them if we were so inclined

- canceling hotel rooms when not used
- not spending our entire travel bank
- agreeing to go to FAA duty limits, even when we're not in an Operational Emergency
- being more fuel conscious

All things I am currently not inclined or motivated to do
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:52 PM
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I think this is where the company could lose out to a truly neutral arbitrator applying the "reasonable man" theory

A pilot is sick for a headache or congestion which only requires simple over the counter medication & time to resolve

They notify the company of that fact, but are still directed to see a doctor at their own expense (i.e. Copay) or face possible discipline

The pilot is merely following FAA regulations for NOT flying while "unfit" and then seeking the appropriate home remedy/self medication which is commonly accepted by medical practitioners, and reasonable men.

If the company then dictates an "excessive action" --- seeing a doctor when it's not medically necessary --- they should cover the pilots cost

My doctor charges $105 for an office visit ($20 copay + $85 to BCBS)

When the company directs me unnecessarily, it's currently costing them $85 unnecessarily --- they should be responsible for the whole $105

I wonder how much they've budgeted in their attempt to intimidate pilots to not call in sick?
This is addressed, in part, in the grievance denial letter.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:15 PM
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Our SCP wants to know what's bothering us.

Maybe he should pull his head out and look around.
I guess he must be too busy looking at his nice shiny car parked in the late call lot on his way in to Flight Ops every day! I didn't realize he had so many late call trips as a manager. I guess his SCP spot is just too far away from his office that he needs to be in the late call lot. Coming up with that "STS" formula for tracking sick calls must really be exhausting. Way to lead from the front...Boss!
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:26 AM
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I guess he must be too busy looking at his nice shiny car parked in the late call lot on his way in to Flight Ops every day! I didn't realize he had so many late call trips as a manager. I guess his SCP spot is just too far away from his office that he needs to be in the late call lot. Coming up with that "STS" formula for tracking sick calls must really be exhausting. Way to lead from the front...Boss!
Stalk much?

Should he park in the O&B lot with our other guys that leave their car there for a week long trip?
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:27 AM
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Maybe he's always late to one of those important meetings...

i've heard they're real stingy with the code. Now I know why.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
Yeah, I know --- it's a different cost center, which our SCP simply doesn't care about

They really don't understand how much we could help them if we were so inclined

- canceling hotel rooms when not used
- not spending our entire travel bank
- agreeing to go to FAA duty limits, even when we're not in an Operational Emergency
- being more fuel conscious

All things I am currently not inclined or motivated to do
Lax guess what due to a small blurb in the existing contract the company does not have to declare a ops emergency to FORCE you to go to 16 hrs any time they want! A pilots only out is to call fatuigued.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
Maybe he's always late to one of those important meetings...

i've heard they're real stingy with the code. Now I know why.
Actually during the day most of the AOC flight managers, some schedulers and etc park in the late call lot. It fills up until about 300 pm.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:36 AM
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That's why a crew member that may miss showtime can't seem to get the code.

They don't want to call it the managers' lot because they don't want the backlash. Hiding their true intentions for it they are.
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Lax guess what due to a small blurb in the existing contract the company does not have to declare a ops emergency to FORCE you to go to 16 hrs any time they want! A pilots only out is to call fatuigued.
What blurb is that. I thought that the pilot had to agree to anything more than 1.5 hours beyond the maximum scheduled duty for the type of flying(ie critical duty period or blended duty period.)
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What blurb is that. I thought that the pilot had to agree to anything more than 1.5 hours beyond the maximum scheduled duty for the type of flying(ie critical duty period or blended duty period.)
Re read that section very closely. I do not have itfront of me right now, ill try to postit later. Call the union they know about it. Basically we have no operational duty limits other than FAR.
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