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Old 05-11-2014, 02:27 AM
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I wonder if these folks will need a note.....

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Old 05-11-2014, 09:09 AM
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Nothing in conjunction with vacation, or a holiday that I know of.
Could be because the computer is in control, and there is no human supervising it (or at least taking responsibility for it). And of course, the computer program has been responsible for several errors (not management's fault, ever).

I'd probably email or call the PAC and ask them specifically why the note is requested. I would be very curious, and if you haven't done anything to flag the point system, why are you on the pilot suspect list?
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:58 AM
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So that makes zero sense that you would be flagged for a doctor's note for past usage. Could it have been required for the trip you called in sick for, alone? Meaning, was in conjunction with vacation, a holiday (yes, Easter counts, apparently people must be calling in sick to attend Easter Mass---yeah right), or something in particular about this specific trip?
Why wouldn't it count. Its the most important holiday of the year to many people.
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Why wouldn't it count. Its the most important holiday of the year to many people.
Guess I'm just not religious enough to think that people would call in sick to attend Easter Mass. If it was that important to them, I think they'd bid it off. It's not like it is difficult to swap a trip over Easter, or bid around it.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:04 PM
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... If it was that important to them, I think they'd bid it off.
"Let them eat cake"

Not everyone is senior enough to bid the days off they want. And the inability to make reasonable schedule adjustments under current management policies is a source of much discontent and the topic of numerous posts here and elsewhere.
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"Let them eat cake"

Not everyone is senior enough to bid the days off they want. And the inability to make reasonable schedule adjustments under current management policies is a source of much discontent and the topic of numerous posts here and elsewhere.
I agree with that. But is Easter really a tough holiday to bid off of, trade, or drop? Perhaps if you're at the absolute bottom of the list, and must bid reserve with no choice at what you get awarded. Otherwise, are there really that many people that have no option but to work Easter, and are strongly religious enough that they would actually call in sick to attend Mass?

Just asking. It seems unlikely to me, but maybe you can enlighten me. Hordes of junior people, unable to get off Easter, must attend Mass or else.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:47 PM
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I agree with that. But is Easter really a tough holiday to bid off of, trade, or drop? Perhaps if you're at the absolute bottom of the list, and must bid reserve with no choice at what you get awarded. Otherwise, are there really that many people that have no option but to work Easter, and are strongly religious enough that they would actually call in sick to attend Mass?

Just asking. It seems unlikely to me, but maybe you can enlighten me. Hordes of junior people, unable to get off Easter, must attend Mass or else.
I don't choose to hold an opinion as to why it's important to some people, nor in how many it's important to. It's important enough to enough people that management feels they need to control/limit sick usage over that holiday via the CBA and threat of discipline. They severely restrict bid line adjustments, particularly regarding R-days. If it's not important to you, bid to fly that holiday and knock yourself out. One of your peers will be grateful.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:26 AM
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The issue isn't Easter. It's any particular day that someone feels is important enough for them to not work that day, and they feel they should be able to somehow, change their schedule, within the rules, without having to resort to calling in sick.
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Originally Posted by Nitefrater
I don't choose to hold an opinion as to why it's important to some people, nor in how many it's important to. It's important enough to enough people that management feels they need to control/limit sick usage over that holiday via the CBA and threat of discipline. They severely restrict bid line adjustments, particularly regarding R-days. If it's not important to you, bid to fly that holiday and knock yourself out. One of your peers will be grateful.
We've traditionally been able to trade off or drop on certain days. Some rocket surgeon has decided to change that without notice or warning. An expectation other than we might call in sick on that day is not just unreasonable, it reflects inexperience, arrogance or maybe even stupidity.

My hope is we hire better managers to replace some who may have gone brain dead. Surely someone of high caliber thinks FedEx would be a good place to work. Then, maybe, one of them can meet our team sitting at the table. When the company is ready to get to work, of course. Wouldn't want to rush them or anything.

A stupid decision on a manager's part is not an emergency on my part.


BTW, they aren't using the CBA this time. It's all extra contractual.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitefrater
I don't choose to hold an opinion as to why it's important to some people, nor in how many it's important to. It's important enough to enough people that management feels they need to control/limit sick usage over that holiday via the CBA and threat of discipline. They severely restrict bid line adjustments, particularly regarding R-days. If it's not important to you, bid to fly that holiday and knock yourself out. One of your peers will be grateful.
I do bid to work over Easter. I didn't realize that it was a particularly difficult holiday for anyone to get off. I don't think they should restrict bid line adjustments over any holiday, or any time, purely because they can. One particular annoyance is during December, when sometimes they won't even allow same day trades in the same footprint, and they put in 10 airport standbys a day (that they won't fill), so all trades are disapproved for max open. Tying people to specific reserve days at any time of year is ridiculous. If they need to do more hiring, or better scheduling management, they should deal with it.
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